Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs

K Major · 01-18-2021, 09:59 PM

I guess we shall see once Brees calls it quits …

Cameras Caught Drew Brees Telling Jameis Winston â€œThis is Your Team Nowâ€ During Playoff Loss - YouTube

gosaints1 · 01-18-2021, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season...

We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons...

Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season?

Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL?

Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints...

To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament...

And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft...

I would like to see both get equal time under the same center, with the same offensive weapons, and the same playbook. Situational QB rotation this past season, based on down and distance, was a really, really bad idea. One I hope to never see again. If Winston is the superior passer, I hope he gets the starting pos’n. Same for Hill. It has to be an open, best man gets the job, competition. If CSP plays favorites, and isn’t objective in his evaluation, then it would not surprise me to see a player revolt.

Worst thing for this team to see would be exactly what you describe, the naming of Taysom as the starter bc -Coach nubs him, and the Saints go 1-4 over the first handful of games. If “Taysom were awful” and CSP stuck with him for an “entire season”, lol, that locker room would be VERY vocal in their displeasure with leadership. It’s a group of men known to be passionate, vocal, and unapologetic in their beliefs.

Bottom line, if CSP has already chosen to roll with Taysom, and it’s my belief he has..., then he would be wise to not have Winston on the roster at the same time. Me personally, I truly want to see Winston start four games in a Saints uni, we’ve seen Taysom start four.

iceshack149 · 01-18-2021, 10:14 PM

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K Major · 01-19-2021, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season...

We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons...

Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season?

Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL?

Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints...

To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament...

And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft...

Or we draft one. If Sean P sees something (PMahommes) in this 2021 class, I hope he pulls the trigger.

We still don't know what Jameis can do in this offense & in a small sample size, Taysom is a fumbler. That's simply not gonna work.

Life after Brees will be interesting as it pertains to the QB position.

vpheughan · 01-19-2021, 10:32 AM

Free agency in the QB world makes it "easier" to get a quality and quite possibly a Franchise QB

RailBoss · 01-19-2021, 10:50 AM

If you think about it since 2006 we never worried about the QB position. Since Drew came to town the Saints have been a competitive team most seasons not to mention that game against the Colts. Actually we have been spoiled for all those years. From a time not so long ago I can remember hitching our wagon to the Joe QB's, Billy Joe Tolliver & Billy Joe Hobert not to mention Chrissy Everett, The Snake, The Cannon, Aaaron, Archie the list goes on. So if Drew decides to hang it up hopefully we won't be back on the QB Carousel.

vpheughan · 01-19-2021, 11:05 AM

Rumor is Carolina isn't happy with Teddy. Bring him back!

iceshack149 · 01-19-2021, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Free agency in the QB world makes it "easier" to get a quality and quite possibly a Franchise QB

I'd like to see Rosen get one more shot with a good organization like the Saints.
He might be a good QB. He might stink. I'd like to find out.

vpheughan · 01-19-2021, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I'd like to see Rosen get one more shot with a good organization like the Saints.
He might be a good QB. He might stink. I'd like to find out.

We all know Payton can't draft a QB but he knows talent when he sees it in the NFL.

ChrisXVI · 01-19-2021, 11:36 AM

As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on...

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01-18-2021, 10:13 PM	#52
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by jeanpierre Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season... We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons... Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season? Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL? Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints... To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament... And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft... I would like to see both get equal time under the same center, with the same offensive weapons, and the same playbook. Situational QB rotation this past season, based on down and distance, was a really, really bad idea. One I hope to never see again. If Winston is the superior passer, I hope he gets the starting pos’n. Same for Hill. It has to be an open, best man gets the job, competition. If CSP plays favorites, and isn’t objective in his evaluation, then it would not surprise me to see a player revolt. Worst thing for this team to see would be exactly what you describe, the naming of Taysom as the starter bc -Coach nubs him, and the Saints go 1-4 over the first handful of games. If “Taysom were awful” and CSP stuck with him for an “entire season”, lol, that locker room would be VERY vocal in their displeasure with leadership. It’s a group of men known to be passionate, vocal, and unapologetic in their beliefs. Bottom line, if CSP has already chosen to roll with Taysom, and it’s my belief he has..., then he would be wise to not have Winston on the roster at the same time. Me personally, I truly want to see Winston start four games in a Saints uni, we’ve seen Taysom start four.
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01-18-2021, 10:14 PM	#53
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by vpheughan OFFENSIVE COACHES TOLD ME ON XM RADIO WHILE DRIVING MY NON EXISTENT 1954 FORD FAIRLANE 500 IN MY DON NOVELLO COSTUME!!! 19 - 0 BABY!!!!! SIRIUSLY!!!! CONSIDERING MY AUDIENCE!!!!

01-19-2021, 10:18 AM	#54
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by jeanpierre Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season... We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons... Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season? Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL? Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints... To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament... And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft... Or we draft one. If Sean P sees something (PMahommes) in this 2021 class, I hope he pulls the trigger. We still don't know what Jameis can do in this offense & in a small sample size, Taysom is a fumbler. That's simply not gonna work. Life after Brees will be interesting as it pertains to the QB position. RailBoss and gosaints1 like this.

01-19-2021, 10:32 AM	#55
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Free agency in the QB world makes it "easier" to get a quality and quite possibly a Franchise QB
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01-19-2021, 10:50 AM	#56
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs If you think about it since 2006 we never worried about the QB position. Since Drew came to town the Saints have been a competitive team most seasons not to mention that game against the Colts. Actually we have been spoiled for all those years. From a time not so long ago I can remember hitching our wagon to the Joe QB's, Billy Joe Tolliver & Billy Joe Hobert not to mention Chrissy Everett, The Snake, The Cannon, Aaaron, Archie the list goes on. So if Drew decides to hang it up hopefully we won't be back on the QB Carousel. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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01-19-2021, 11:05 AM	#57
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Rumor is Carolina isn't happy with Teddy. Bring him back!
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01-19-2021, 11:08 AM	#58
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by vpheughan Free agency in the QB world makes it "easier" to get a quality and quite possibly a Franchise QB I'd like to see Rosen get one more shot with a good organization like the Saints. He might be a good QB. He might stink. I'd like to find out.

01-19-2021, 11:10 AM	#59
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by iceshack149 I'd like to see Rosen get one more shot with a good organization like the Saints. He might be a good QB. He might stink. I'd like to find out. We all know Payton can't draft a QB but he knows talent when he sees it in the NFL. stickman likes this.
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01-19-2021, 11:36 AM	#60
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on... Twitter iceshack149, jnormand, Rsanders24 and 1 others like this.