Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs

rezburna · 01-19-2021, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on...

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...59395516276738

Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that ****. Can’t wait to see what he does next year.

gosaints1 · 01-19-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that ****. Can’t wait to see what he does next year.

I understand the logic of evaluating salaries, I do. But great goobly moobly, Kamara and Thomas have overly earned their salaries. And why aren’t ppl upset at Taysom’s contract? He is equally as expensive as Thomas. Thomas’ cap number for 2021 right now is $18,800,000. Taysom’s cap is $16,159,000. I’ve seen Thomas destroy the league, he is a known quantity. Taysom? Not anywhere near where CGM is as far as needing to be paid superstar money. Being paid almost the same as Thomas? That’s just goofy.

That was a bad signing, imho, a very, very bad signing.

vpheughan · 01-19-2021, 12:23 PM

Flashback to last year against the Vikings. Taysom Hill kept the Saints in that game. He was missed against the Bucs. Bad signing? Time will tell but he's signed and it is what it is.

Above is my original thread. Which stands on it's own merit.

That's a bit of broad brush you're painting with,

All I did was defend my original statement that was blown all out of proportion.

K Major · 01-19-2021, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on...

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...59395516276738

It was obvious he wasn't right health wise. 0 catches in the playoffs? Naw, Mike is too much of a competitor.

Glad he's getting much needed surgery.

gosaints1 · 01-19-2021, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Flashback to last year against the Vikings. Taysom Hill kept the Saints in that game. He was missed against the Bucs. Bad signing? Time will tell but he's signed and it is what it is.

Fully understand the logic you’re using to think the way you think. Using your logic of “he’s signed..., it is what it is..., time will tell” can be equally applied to everyone else that is currently signed. Including CGM, well not really Thomas or Kamara as we don’t need “time to tell” as they ARE playmakers, not “time will tell” folks.

“They’re all signed, time will tell, it is what it is”. Right? Problem with that logic is somehow, someway almost $100 million has to be “booked” to be in compliance and field a team in fall 2021. “He is signed” isn’t going to work. 45 of the current 53 players are already “he is signed” and accounted for already in the 2021 cap mess, and those salaries put us over almost $100,000,000.00. There will be “he is signed” folks who won’t be on the final 53 in the fall of 2021. And it’s my belief Taysom Hill should be on that evaluate for trade or release list also. A “gadget” guy is an extravagance.

Beastmode · 01-19-2021, 08:42 PM

NFL is finished. We are at war. China and other countries have attacked us. They used BLM and Antifa as proxy terrorists organizations and covid as a front to isolate us and destroy the dollar.

If you still think this is not happening then sure, enjoy your fooseball. Mama said Col Sanders was wrong.

gosaints1 · 01-19-2021, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

NFL is finished. We are at war. China and other countries have attacked us. They used BLM and Antifa as proxy terrorists organizations and covid as a front to isolate us and destroy the dollar.

If you still think this is not happening then sure, enjoy your fooseball. Mama said Col Sanders was wrong.

lol, Beast - you got the brain pain again?

Beastmode · 01-19-2021, 09:49 PM

After spending 20 yrs in the military enlisted to officer I absolutely have the brain pain. I love all you guys and gals. ALL of you but we are at war. If you choose not to believe it then don't. I however know that we are. I am a subject matter expert on it. Mock me, ridicule me. I do not care. Free speech, our most sacred right is being trashed to the effin tilt.

lee909 · 01-19-2021, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that ****. Can’t wait to see what he does next year.

Originally Posted by gosaints1

I understand the logic of evaluating salaries, I do. But great goobly moobly, Kamara and Thomas have overly earned their salaries. And why aren’t ppl upset at Taysom’s contract? He is equally as expensive as Thomas. Thomas’ cap number for 2021 right now is $18,800,000. Taysom’s cap is $16,159,000. I’ve seen Thomas destroy the league, he is a known quantity. Taysom? Not anywhere near where CGM is as far as needing to be paid superstar money. Being paid almost the same as Thomas? That’s just goofy.

That was a bad signing, imho, a very, very bad signing.

Its that point, i dont think anyone saying trade Thomas is anything to do with him as a player. Its the fact the teams is so far over the top of the cap and some changes are going to be needed and you look at where it could be trimmed.

The Peat and Hill contracts where the bad ones imo. If Hill was the future at QB he would have beat Teddy out a year back.

In a ideal world the cap would have jumped like expected and you'd be making the contract changes and a few cuts,extensions to sort out the difference and keeping the core together. The roster salary is very very heavily weighted to a few players.

gosaints1 · 01-19-2021, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

After spending 20 yrs in the military enlisted to officer I absolutely have the brain pain. I love all you guys and gals. ALL of you but we are at war. If you choose not to believe it then don't. I however know that we are. I am a subject matter expert on it. Mock me, ridicule me. I do not care. Free speech, our most sacred right is being trashed to the effin tilt.

Beast, I wasn’t trying to mock or ridicule you, and I’m aware of your service to the country, and thank you for it, from the bottom of my heart. You brought up “fooseball” and “Mama” and “Col Sanders” with a quote from the movie Waterboy. So I replied similarly, Mama had “brain pain”. You have my apology, but it was not my intention to ridicule you. Or your beliefs.

01-19-2021, 11:39 AM	#61
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by ChrisXVI As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on... https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...59395516276738 Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that ****. Can’t wait to see what he does next year. 73Saint, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by rezburna Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that ****. Can’t wait to see what he does next year. I understand the logic of evaluating salaries, I do. But great goobly moobly, Kamara and Thomas have overly earned their salaries. And why aren’t ppl upset at Taysom’s contract? He is equally as expensive as Thomas. Thomas’ cap number for 2021 right now is $18,800,000. Taysom’s cap is $16,159,000. I’ve seen Thomas destroy the league, he is a known quantity. Taysom? Not anywhere near where CGM is as far as needing to be paid superstar money. Being paid almost the same as Thomas? That’s just goofy. That was a bad signing, imho, a very, very bad signing. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs *Flashback to last year against the Vikings. Taysom Hill kept the Saints in that game. He was missed against the Bucs. Bad signing? Time will tell but he's signed and it is what it is.* Above is my original thread. Which stands on it's own merit. That's a bit of broad brush you're painting with, All I did was defend my original statement that was blown all out of proportion.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by ChrisXVI As usual, us fans have no idea what’s going on... https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...59395516276738 It was obvious he wasn't right health wise. 0 catches in the playoffs? Naw, Mike is too much of a competitor. Glad he's getting much needed surgery.

01-19-2021, 12:45 PM	#65
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by vpheughan Flashback to last year against the Vikings. Taysom Hill kept the Saints in that game. He was missed against the Bucs. Bad signing? Time will tell but he's signed and it is what it is. Fully understand the logic you’re using to think the way you think. Using your logic of “he’s signed..., it is what it is..., time will tell” can be equally applied to everyone else that is currently signed. Including CGM, well not really Thomas or Kamara as we don’t need “time to tell” as they ARE playmakers, not “time will tell” folks. “They’re all signed, time will tell, it is what it is”. Right? Problem with that logic is somehow, someway almost $100 million has to be “booked” to be in compliance and field a team in fall 2021. “He is signed” isn’t going to work. 45 of the current 53 players are already “he is signed” and accounted for already in the 2021 cap mess, and those salaries put us over almost $100,000,000.00. There will be “he is signed” folks who won’t be on the final 53 in the fall of 2021. And it’s my belief Taysom Hill should be on that evaluate for trade or release list also. A “gadget” guy is an extravagance.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by rezburna Exactly. This is the guy fans are saying they want to trade. The one that played through injury every chance he could. Yet these guys are supposed to love and adore the “fans”? They hear that **. Can’t wait to see what he does next year. Originally Posted by gosaints1** I understand the logic of evaluating salaries, I do. But great goobly moobly, Kamara and Thomas have overly earned their salaries. And why aren’t ppl upset at Taysom’s contract? He is equally as expensive as Thomas. Thomas’ cap number for 2021 right now is $18,800,000. Taysom’s cap is $16,159,000. I’ve seen Thomas destroy the league, he is a known quantity. Taysom? Not anywhere near where CGM is as far as needing to be paid superstar money. Being paid almost the same as Thomas? That’s just goofy. That was a bad signing, imho, a very, very bad signing. Its that point, i dont think anyone saying trade Thomas is anything to do with him as a player. Its the fact the teams is so far over the top of the cap and some changes are going to be needed and you look at where it could be trimmed. The Peat and Hill contracts where the bad ones imo. If Hill was the future at QB he would have beat Teddy out a year back. In a ideal world the cap would have jumped like expected and you'd be making the contract changes and a few cuts,extensions to sort out the difference and keeping the core together. The roster salary is very very heavily weighted to a few players. iceshack149 and gosaints1 like this.
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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by Beastmode After spending 20 yrs in the military enlisted to officer I absolutely have the brain pain. I love all you guys and gals. ALL of you but we are at war. If you choose not to believe it then don't. I however know that we are. I am a subject matter expert on it. Mock me, ridicule me. I do not care. Free speech, our most sacred right is being trashed to the effin tilt. Beast, I wasn’t trying to mock or ridicule you, and I’m aware of your service to the country, and thank you for it, from the bottom of my heart. You brought up “fooseball” and “Mama” and “Col Sanders” with a quote from the movie Waterboy. So I replied similarly, Mama had “brain pain”. You have my apology, but it was not my intention to ridicule you. Or your beliefs.
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