Brees Additional Injuries

K Major · 01-21-2021, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The trick play had more to do with Jameis athletic ability to run more than the throw itself. Ball only traveled 28 yards in the air and contrary to most of the beliefs on this forum, Drew can make that throw. Now lining up wide and sprinting back to the middle of the field, probably not.

Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs.

Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently.

Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9.

RailBoss · 01-21-2021, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs.

Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently.

Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9.

Coach most likely knew Drew's injuries and limitations that's probably why Taysom was such a valuable part of the game plan. I suspect SP freaked when he knew Taysom was out for the Bucs game. Same thing probably with Thomas.

WhoDat!656 · 01-21-2021, 09:53 AM

Is the league going to punish the Saints for this? I believe Weeks 8-10 the Saints listed Brees with a shoulder injury, but if it was bothering him all year as his wife says, then I will be surprised if Der Kommisar doesn't do something about it.

I want to know if Brees told SP about it.

Budsdrinker · 01-21-2021, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs.

Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently.

Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9.

I didn't say a rushing threat, I said athletic ability the run from spread out wide to back to the middle of the field. Never said or intended for Jameis to be a rushing threat.

lee909 · 01-21-2021, 12:39 PM

Not sold on Winston being the answer at all.
In the very limited minutes this year there wasn't much to see. And you saw last weekend that as good as the D has been even they can't keep bailing you out when defending a short field.

Most of my post have probably looked to be critical, its not meant to be but taking the Saints glasses off and just looking at the facts on the table.

Personally i quiet excited at a new future and see plenty to be optimistic about.

New coaches always bring new ideas and new training regimes,ideas and keep things fresh. Shame we lost Glenn,especially if Allen does get a HC job. Time to move on from some players and 100% time to move on from the sick notes that can't stay healthy over multiple seasons.

Some big changes coming but some good drafting the next two years,some clever scouting and trading and there is no reason that by the start of the 2023 the Saints cannot be looking to make a deep run. Tampa will be done by then as even Brady isn't going on much longer,Falcons and Panthers are not great and need to fill as many holes as the Saints.

Should have 2 3rd round comp picks this year, and would expect a few next year to go with the 3rd they will have for Terry Fontenot leaving.

UK_WhoDat · 01-22-2021, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

After all he’s done for this city and this team I would support him another year.
I doubt his teammates would.

As a player, I would not. I would want to him to retain whatever modicum of health and fitness he has, for the benfit of his, his family's future.

As an Ambassador for the Saints - Yeah.

TheOak · 01-22-2021, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I simply cannot believe Winston won't get a legit look (assuming he resigns) in 2021. He has the body of work, 1st round pedigree, can make all NFL throws & has won a lot of meaningful games.

Jameis has had 3 different HC/OC's in 5 seasons.

Sean P turned an unpolished Tony Romo into a really good QB. I'd like to see what he could do with Winston on a FT basis.

Winston and Romo have something in common. They both love to throw to the other team

Thirty3 · 01-22-2021, 04:23 PM

Hindsight: he should have stopped playing VERY EARLY in the year and set his sights on next year then. It was a stupid year anyway with Covid and no fans. Nearing the end of his career I can see the desire to keep playing especially with the talent we had. I do not fault him, nor do I hope he retires. One more SHOT Drew!! Come on! The heck with the naysayers...you'll get them onboard with winning. We all know you have it in you. So do you. give it a shot.
On the flip side, if Drew doesn't come back I am very cool with Taysom being our guy, but will miss what I consider could be Drew's possibly best year. Oh yeah, I mean it.

Thirty3 · 01-22-2021, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I simply cannot believe Winston won't get a legit look (assuming he resigns) in 2021. He has the body of work, 1st round pedigree, can make all NFL throws & has won a lot of meaningful games.

Jameis has had 3 different HC/OC's in 5 seasons.

Sean P turned an unpolished Tony Romo into a really good QB. I'd like to see what he could do with Winston on a FT basis.

In the words of that famous American philosopher: Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid". (Of course I'm referring to the incessant interceptions - not his IQ of which I have no knowledge).

K Major · 01-22-2021, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

In the words of that famous American philosopher: Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid". (Of course I'm referring to the incessant interceptions - not his IQ of which I have no knowledge).

Thirty,

The only people that truly know what improvements/decision making Jameis has or hasn't made over the course of this season is our coaching staff, specifically Sean Payton. Maybe, just maybe SP didn't play him much in efforts to lower his price tag in Free Agency for 2021.

Saints need a QB.

Once Free Agency begins, we'll see what (if any) the front office is willing to offer with the salary cap constraints.

01-21-2021, 09:34 AM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The trick play had more to do with Jameis athletic ability to run more than the throw itself. Ball only traveled 28 yards in the air and contrary to most of the beliefs on this forum, Drew can make that throw. Now lining up wide and sprinting back to the middle of the field, probably not. Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs. Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently. Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9. Rsanders24, SmashMouth, jeanpierre and 2 others like this.

01-21-2021, 09:51 AM	#22
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by K Major Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs. Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently. Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9. Coach most likely knew Drew's injuries and limitations that's probably why Taysom was such a valuable part of the game plan. I suspect SP freaked when he knew Taysom was out for the Bucs game. Same thing probably with Thomas. SaintFanQ likes this.

01-21-2021, 09:53 AM	#23
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Is the league going to punish the Saints for this? I believe Weeks 8-10 the Saints listed Brees with a shoulder injury, but if it was bothering him all year as his wife says, then I will be surprised if Der Kommisar doesn't do something about it. I want to know if Brees told SP about it. gosaints1 likes this.

01-21-2021, 12:24 PM	#24
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by K Major Jameis running? On that defense? If Taysom was in there I could see your argument but JW is no threat to take off and hurt a defense with his legs. Anytime we need to stretch the field, Taysom is under center. Brees can no longer effectively throw the deep pass (25-30 yards) consistently. Sanders & 3quan have been limited with #9. I didn't say a rushing threat, I said athletic ability the run from spread out wide to back to the middle of the field. Never said or intended for Jameis to be a rushing threat.

01-21-2021, 12:39 PM	#25
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,758 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Not sold on Winston being the answer at all. In the very limited minutes this year there wasn't much to see. And you saw last weekend that as good as the D has been even they can't keep bailing you out when defending a short field. Most of my post have probably looked to be critical, its not meant to be but taking the Saints glasses off and just looking at the facts on the table. Personally i quiet excited at a new future and see plenty to be optimistic about. New coaches always bring new ideas and new training regimes,ideas and keep things fresh. Shame we lost Glenn,especially if Allen does get a HC job. Time to move on from some players and 100% time to move on from the sick notes that can't stay healthy over multiple seasons. Some big changes coming but some good drafting the next two years,some clever scouting and trading and there is no reason that by the start of the 2023 the Saints cannot be looking to make a deep run. Tampa will be done by then as even Brady isn't going on much longer,Falcons and Panthers are not great and need to fill as many holes as the Saints. Should have 2 3rd round comp picks this year, and would expect a few next year to go with the 3rd they will have for Terry Fontenot leaving. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-22-2021, 06:46 AM	#26
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,825	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by The Dude After all he’s done for this city and this team I would support him another year. I doubt his teammates would. As a player, I would not. I would want to him to retain whatever modicum of health and fitness he has, for the benfit of his, his family's future. As an Ambassador for the Saints - Yeah. K Major likes this.

01-22-2021, 07:38 AM	#27
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by K Major I simply cannot believe Winston won't get a legit look (assuming he resigns) in 2021. He has the body of work, 1st round pedigree, can make all NFL throws & has won a lot of meaningful games. Jameis has had 3 different HC/OC's in 5 seasons. Sean P turned an unpolished Tony Romo into a really good QB. I'd like to see what he could do with Winston on a FT basis. Winston and Romo have something in common. They both love to throw to the other team Thirty3 likes this.

01-22-2021, 04:23 PM	#28
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,251	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Hindsight: he should have stopped playing VERY EARLY in the year and set his sights on next year then. It was a stupid year anyway with Covid and no fans. Nearing the end of his career I can see the desire to keep playing especially with the talent we had. I do not fault him, nor do I hope he retires. One more SHOT Drew!! Come on! The heck with the naysayers...you'll get them onboard with winning. We all know you have it in you. So do you. give it a shot. On the flip side, if Drew doesn't come back I am very cool with Taysom being our guy, but will miss what I consider could be Drew's possibly best year. Oh yeah, I mean it. WhoDat!656 likes this.
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01-22-2021, 04:27 PM	#29
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,251	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by K Major I simply cannot believe Winston won't get a legit look (assuming he resigns) in 2021. He has the body of work, 1st round pedigree, can make all NFL throws & has won a lot of meaningful games. Jameis has had 3 different HC/OC's in 5 seasons. Sean P turned an unpolished Tony Romo into a really good QB. I'd like to see what he could do with Winston on a FT basis. In the words of that famous American philosopher: Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid". (Of course I'm referring to the incessant interceptions - not his IQ of which I have no knowledge).
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01-22-2021, 04:44 PM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees Additional Injuries Originally Posted by Thirty3 In the words of that famous American philosopher: Forest Gump, "You can't fix stupid". (Of course I'm referring to the incessant interceptions - not his IQ of which I have no knowledge). Thirty, The only people that truly know what improvements/decision making Jameis has or hasn't made over the course of this season is our coaching staff, specifically Sean Payton. Maybe, just maybe SP didn't play him much in efforts to lower his price tag in Free Agency for 2021. Saints need a QB. Once Free Agency begins, we'll see what (if any) the front office is willing to offer with the salary cap constraints. Rsanders24 and SmashMouth like this.