B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 10:07 AM

Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there?

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there?

We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field.

gosaints1 · 01-25-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field.

Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.

Nobody ever talks about the fact he’s pretty much had good to elite level offensive lines his entire tenure in New Orleans.

Jamal Brown
Jahri Evans
Carl Nicks
John Stinchcomb
Ryan Ramczyk
Ben Grubbs
Jonathan Goodwin
Max Unger
Terron Armstead

That’s some All-Pro talent we’ve had coming through here.

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 10:52 AM

Indeed. The OLine talent has been Deep. D-line as well for the most part. Both sides of the line have been high priority draft picks for the most part under Payton. D backfield as well.

Linebackers and WRs have been under repped by him conversely. I know there have been a handful here and there, but Inwould have liked to see these positions better regarded IMO.

One more thing about Brees arm strength vs “Receiver” quality I’ll say this. You replace Cook with Travis Kelce, Saints win that game against Tampa. I can’t say the same if you replace Brees with Rodgers.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-25-2021, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there?

Facts

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there? iceshack149, Budsdrinker, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Boston Saint Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there? We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field. Rsanders24, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field. Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by gosaints1 Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three. Nobody ever talks about the fact he’s pretty much had good to elite level offensive lines his entire tenure in New Orleans. Jamal Brown Jahri Evans Carl Nicks John Stinchcomb Ryan Ramczyk Ben Grubbs Jonathan Goodwin Max Unger Terron Armstead That’s some All-Pro talent we’ve had coming through here. 73Saint, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Boston Saint Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there? Facts
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