B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago

saintsfan1976 · 01-25-2021, 05:51 AM

Watching the Qbs this weekend sling it around with ease made me jealous to not have the same on our roster.

It's a fact Drew's arm has been in decline overall. The offense showed it and defenses capitalized.

We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"...

TheOak · 01-25-2021, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Watching the Qbs this weekend sling it around with ease made me jealous to not have the same on our roster.

It's a fact Drew's arm has been in decline overall. The offense showed it and defenses capitalized.

We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"...

It has been a couple of seasons since we challenged with passing accuracy brother.

saintsfan1976 · 01-25-2021, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It has been a couple of seasons since we challenged with passing accuracy brother.

I'm aware. I'm guilty of not opening my eyes to it earlier, though. Or at least not admitting to it... Look, I love Drew and what he's done for the team as well as the region in general so it's hard to imagine him not being our leader.

But.... it's evident his time has come to an end.

TheOak · 01-25-2021, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm aware. I'm guilty of not opening my eyes to it earlier, though. Or at least not admitting to it... Look, I love Drew and what he's done for the team as well as the region in general so it's hard to imagine him not being our leader.

But.... it's evident his time has come to an end.

Nearly all of us love what Drew has done. It does not matter what he did yesterday, his body of work validates the pedestal we put him on.

In some instances guilt makes us believe that evolving equates to tossing aside and that isn't the case. Because there isn't just one discussion but rather two simultaneously; trying to debate if he should be done, and who the next person is... because of this, I believe that his retirement will be healthy for the fan base.

Its unrealistic to become permanently attached to a player and winning at the same time... One or the other will inevitably deteriorate.

vpheughan · 01-25-2021, 07:04 AM

We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"...

Already on the roster Jameis Winston
He can sling it alright, the hell with "accuracy"
76 games 61.4 % comp. 19,812 yds 121 td 88 int . Careful what you wish for.

WW_Who_Dat · 01-25-2021, 08:07 AM

Yeah I think that noodle arm facilitated the record breaking season for MT ... Respect seems to be lacking for a player who did little too distinguish himself on the playing field this year ... his biggest splash was the thrown punch at his TEAM MATE.

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 10:07 AM

Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there?

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there?

We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field.

gosaints1 · 01-25-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field.

Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.

Nobody ever talks about the fact he’s pretty much had good to elite level offensive lines his entire tenure in New Orleans.

Jamal Brown
Jahri Evans
Carl Nicks
John Stinchcomb
Ryan Ramczyk
Ben Grubbs
Jonathan Goodwin
Max Unger
Terron Armstead

That’s some All-Pro talent we’ve had coming through here.

01-25-2021, 05:51 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Watching the Qbs this weekend sling it around with ease made me jealous to not have the same on our roster. It's a fact Drew's arm has been in decline overall. The offense showed it and defenses capitalized. We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"... Rsanders24, 73Saint, cmike and 3 others like this.

01-25-2021, 07:14 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Watching the Qbs this weekend sling it around with ease made me jealous to not have the same on our roster. It's a fact Drew's arm has been in decline overall. The offense showed it and defenses capitalized. We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"... It has been a couple of seasons since we challenged with passing accuracy brother. UK_WhoDat, Rsanders24, saintsfan1976 and 1 others like this.

01-25-2021, 08:07 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by TheOak It has been a couple of seasons since we challenged with passing accuracy brother. I'm aware. I'm guilty of not opening my eyes to it earlier, though. Or at least not admitting to it... Look, I love Drew and what he's done for the team as well as the region in general so it's hard to imagine him not being our leader. But.... it's evident his time has come to an end. 73Saint and K Major like this.

01-25-2021, 09:45 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm aware. I'm guilty of not opening my eyes to it earlier, though. Or at least not admitting to it... Look, I love Drew and what he's done for the team as well as the region in general so it's hard to imagine him not being our leader. But.... it's evident his time has come to an end. Nearly all of us love what Drew has done. It does not matter what he did yesterday, his body of work validates the pedestal we put him on. In some instances guilt makes us believe that evolving equates to tossing aside and that isn't the case. Because there isn't just one discussion but rather two simultaneously; trying to debate if he should be done, and who the next person is... because of this, I believe that his retirement will be healthy for the fan base. Its unrealistic to become permanently attached to a player and winning at the same time... One or the other will inevitably deteriorate.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-25-2021, 07:04 AM	#5
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,548	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago We need a new QB who can challenge a defense with more than "accuracy"... Already on the roster Jameis Winston He can sling it alright, the hell with "accuracy" 76 games 61.4 % comp. 19,812 yds 121 td 88 int . Careful what you wish for.
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01-25-2021, 08:07 AM	#6
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,279 Blog Entries: 1	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Yeah I think that noodle arm facilitated the record breaking season for MT ... Respect seems to be lacking for a player who did little too distinguish himself on the playing field this year ... his biggest splash was the thrown punch at his TEAM MATE. Papa Voodoo, Rugby Saint II and RefsRobbedUs like this.

01-25-2021, 10:07 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there? iceshack149, Budsdrinker, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

01-25-2021, 10:24 AM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Boston Saint Brady is also able to do this not only because of his arm but because he is playing with three solid healthy receivers and a solid TE. When he was struggling here in NE last season everyone said his arm was shot too. Look what having a good WR cops can do. Brees had a Broken Thomas, a past his prime Sanders and a bum in Cook. You don’t see a difference there? We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field. Rsanders24, gosaints1 and K Major like this.

01-25-2021, 10:33 AM	#9
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna We can watch the All 22 film and see him missing guys wide open down the field or short arming throws. Receivers were getting open. He wasn’t making the throws. You can give Drew Brees the same weapons the Bucs had and he still wouldn’t push the ball down the field. Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three.
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01-25-2021, 10:38 AM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by gosaints1 Another argument that I’ve seen pop up, especially in game day threads, is that his OL is getting him killed. DB#9 has been one of the least sacked QB’s for well over a decade. He’s been fortunate to be on a team that hyper-focuses on his protection, and a team that drafts and pays for that protection. DeShaun Watson on a team that prioritized his protection? Wow, can’t even imagine it. 49 sacks, just this season, is outrageously incompetent. DB#9 doesn’t get sacked that much in two consecutive years, closer to three. Nobody ever talks about the fact he’s pretty much had good to elite level offensive lines his entire tenure in New Orleans. Jamal Brown Jahri Evans Carl Nicks John Stinchcomb Ryan Ramczyk Ben Grubbs Jonathan Goodwin Max Unger Terron Armstead That’s some All-Pro talent we’ve had coming through here. 73Saint, gosaints1 and K Major like this.