B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Winston isn't under contract. What kind of deal would you offer him or better yet, what kind of deal do you think he will want?

1 year
$15 million

Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

SaintGnome · 01-25-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1 year
$15 million

Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

Maaaybe

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Maaaybe

What you thinkin’? 🤔

I’m spit ballin’.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-25-2021, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

What you thinkin’? 🤔

I’m spit ballin’.

I was thinking 15m too and I can see him take it. He needs to prove himself as the starter before they pay him more.

If coach doesn’t have faith in Jameis, they need to pursue Stafford (more realistic than Watson)

SaintGnome · 01-26-2021, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

What you thinkin’? 🤔

I’m spit ballin’.

The one year thing scares me. If we are going to actually give him a legitimate chance to start, if he balls out in 2021 he's going to want 30-40 just next year and could leave if he doesn't get it from us. I could stomach 12-15 mil in a 3 year contract.

I didn't like bringing him in, and I didn't want to see him as our starter but you make a good point, he's probably the best bang for the buck we're going to get for what we'll be able to pay. I say give him the 3yr and let it be an open competition with him and Taysom.

TheOak · 01-26-2021, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1 year
$15 million

Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

Careful, that is what I might classify as set up to lose. We have to get rid of 7-9 players to get under the cap, and will have to get rid of another 3-4 to clear enough cap space to pay $15M to Winston.

The way it will play out is that Winston cant ball out because we gutted the team around him and when that happens people that do not want Winston will say he had his chance and did nothing...

I believe that no matter what we do, Winston will be playing somewhere else in 2022.

K Major · 01-26-2021, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1 year
$15 million

Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

Fair number.

15-20M is about the going rate for starting QB's.

lee909 · 01-26-2021, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1 year
$15 million

Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

That still means as a team they are paying out $31ml for 2 QBs under contract. Not really feasible under the cap with so many other high earners

RefsRobbedUs · 01-26-2021, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

That still means as a team they are paying out $31ml for 2 QBs under contract. Not really feasible under the cap with so many other high earners

So the only option is Taysom or a rookie?

Yikes

lee909 · 01-26-2021, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

So the only option is Taysom or a rookie?

Yikes

They could find a way to pay him but the big question is "Is it in the long term interest to add void years and pay that money over a number of years". This year has really proven that pushing money into the future expecting the cap to jump on new deals comes with massive risks if it doesn't.

01-25-2021, 02:25 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Winston isn't under contract. What kind of deal would you offer him or better yet, what kind of deal do you think he will want? 1 year $15 million Ball out and you can get the big bucks.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna 1 year $15 million Ball out and you can get the big bucks. Maaaybe

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by SaintGnome Maaaybe What you thinkin’? 🤔 I’m spit ballin’.

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RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna What you thinkin’? 🤔 I’m spit ballin’. I was thinking 15m too and I can see him take it. He needs to prove himself as the starter before they pay him more. If coach doesn’t have faith in Jameis, they need to pursue Stafford (more realistic than Watson)
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01-26-2021, 05:50 PM	#5
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna What you thinkin’? 🤔 I’m spit ballin’. The one year thing scares me. If we are going to actually give him a legitimate chance to start, if he balls out in 2021 he's going to want 30-40 just next year and could leave if he doesn't get it from us. I could stomach 12-15 mil in a 3 year contract. I didn't like bringing him in, and I didn't want to see him as our starter but you make a good point, he's probably the best bang for the buck we're going to get for what we'll be able to pay. I say give him the 3yr and let it be an open competition with him and Taysom.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna 1 year $15 million Ball out and you can get the big bucks. Careful, that is what I might classify as set up to lose. We have to get rid of 7-9 players to get under the cap, and will have to get rid of another 3-4 to clear enough cap space to pay $15M to Winston. The way it will play out is that Winston cant ball out because we gutted the team around him and when that happens people that do not want Winston will say he had his chance and did nothing... I believe that no matter what we do, Winston will be playing somewhere else in 2022. subguy likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna 1 year $15 million Ball out and you can get the big bucks. Fair number. 15-20M is about the going rate for starting QB's.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna 1 year $15 million Ball out and you can get the big bucks. That still means as a team they are paying out $31ml for 2 QBs under contract. Not really feasible under the cap with so many other high earners

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RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by lee909 That still means as a team they are paying out $31ml for 2 QBs under contract. Not really feasible under the cap with so many other high earners So the only option is Taysom or a rookie? Yikes
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01-26-2021, 03:27 PM	#10
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs So the only option is Taysom or a rookie? Yikes They could find a way to pay him but the big question is "Is it in the long term interest to add void years and pay that money over a number of years". This year has really proven that pushing money into the future expecting the cap to jump on new deals comes with massive risks if it doesn't.