I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 01:33 PM

Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ?

Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31.

We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on.

We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett.

leilung · 02-08-2023, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ?

Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31.

We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on.

We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett.

Just FYI, Carr is 32 in a few weeks. Not that it matters to the front office. They're gonna do what they're gonna do, regardless of what we think!

K Major · 02-08-2023, 01:43 PM

I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston.

Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton.

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston.

Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton.

Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out

Rugby Saint II · 02-08-2023, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

voodooido · 02-08-2023, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

Originally Posted by voodooido

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out.

Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it?

jnormand · 02-08-2023, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot.

Yikes!

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 01:57 PM

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 02:10 PM

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,966 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ? Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31. We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on. We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,430	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ? Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31. We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on. We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett. Just FYI, Carr is 32 in a few weeks. Not that it matters to the front office. They're gonna do what they're gonna do, regardless of what we think! SmashMouth likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston. Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,966 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston. Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton. Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out jnormand likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,182	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,843	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,966 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one. Originally Posted by voodooido I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out. Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it? Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,774	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by voodooido I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot. Yikes! SmashMouth likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,708	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one. Rugby Saint II likes this.