I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

neugey · 02-08-2023, 12:34 PM

If it's 4th or above, hoping it's conditional. Carr is a quality QB, I'd be most worried about the driver (Carmichael)

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If it's 4th or above, hoping it's conditional. Carr is a quality QB, I'd be most worried about the driver (Carmichael)

I think most of our problem last year was that the driver (Carmichael) was trying to drive a car with multiple flat tires (offensive line injuries) and an underpowered engine (Dalton).

We saw a much more aggressive approach by Carmichael in the 30 plus games he play called prior to last season with a more talented QB (Brees) than Dalton and a healthier offensive line. I'm hoping that can be the case moving forward.

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:22 PM

That's a bigger cap number than I thought could happen. GULP!

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:33 PM

Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ?

Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31.

We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on.

We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett.

K Major · 02-08-2023, 02:43 PM

I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston.

Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton.

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I think Derek is more like (skill set) Winston.

Not the popular opinion but I'd like to keep JW around as "backup" & be done with Dalton.

Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:57 PM

Rugby Saint II · 02-08-2023, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 03:10 PM

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

voodooido · 02-08-2023, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr If it's 4th or above, hoping it's conditional. Carr is a quality QB, I'd be most worried about the driver (Carmichael) Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by neugey If it's 4th or above, hoping it's conditional. Carr is a quality QB, I'd be most worried about the driver (Carmichael) I think most of our problem last year was that the driver (Carmichael) was trying to drive a car with multiple flat tires (offensive line injuries) and an underpowered engine (Dalton). We saw a much more aggressive approach by Carmichael in the 30 plus games he play called prior to last season with a more talented QB (Brees) than Dalton and a healthier offensive line. I'm hoping that can be the case moving forward.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Twitter That's a bigger cap number than I thought could happen. GULP!

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Is Derek Carr really more like Jim Everett 2.0, and not Drew Brees 2.0 ? Everett was 31 when he was traded to the Saints. Derek Carr is 31. We got 3 years out of Everett before we moved on. We were thinking that we were getting 1988 or 1989 Everett when he showed up in 1994. He was more like 1992 and 1993 Everett. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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