Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 

I saw a video yesterday Guido that may have an answer on this. It seemed to indicate that if he retires before a certain date (sometime in June if I remember correctly) then about 11 million in cap hit comes into play. If it is after that date, then it doesn’t. So, he could have made his mind up but can’t say so yet without putting a dent in the Saint’s financial situation.

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June 1st is the date that remaining guarantees are carried into the following years. Yes, the date is important, but I believe just announcing the decision to retire doesn't trigger anything. What is important is when the papers are officially sent to the league office. He can announce he plans to retire today, but it doesn't become official until those papers arrive.

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 

Maybe so. I’m not saying I’m correct, but the vid I watched seemed to indicate it did matter. In fact one guy mentioned Godell coming down on the Saints for violating the “spirit of the law” for doing this if Brees does in fact know he is retiring. Again, I wouldn’t bet money on it though.

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3:10 mark they talk about it.

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I listened to the interview. They both said that it has been based upon the date the paperwork is delivered. That has always been my understanding for trades or cuts specifically, but a retirement would fall under the exact same guidelines. What they appeared to be saying is that IF there was a way to screw the Saints over, Goodell would. This is a commonly used rule so I don't think there would be an issue. That said, I'm still not counting Brees as retired until he makes an announcement and I don't think he's made any announcement yet because he hasn't made that decision.

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 

And I think he has made his decision. And I think not announcing it until after June 1 is important.

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I'd be willing to place a wager on that. I'll bet you that he will announce his intentions (return or retire) well before the June 1st timeframe.

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 

How about a hurricane at Patty’ Os ?

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 

Make mine a Long Island Ice Tea and you've got it.

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Deal LOL. Last time I was at Pats (3 plus yea are) there was a Bachelorette party in the courtyard corner. I was meeting up with my Ca friend Matt to party up. We shared a table with them until a rat scurried underfoot and they noticed them running on the vine covered walls. Almost caused a riot ! Winner gets a round Next time we can all be at Pats.