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I agree ... as long as they all remain on the field. That's an offensive line that Winston or even Dalton can have success behind.

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A very quick check shows 21 of the 32 NFL teams have losing records. Names like: Rogers, Brady and Wilson are all below .500

Blaming OLine injuries for the record doesn't really work.
Remember last years starting Oline only played 22 snaps together, yet that team (with no wide receivers and using 4 different QB'S) came this close to making the playoffs and posted a 9 - 8 record.

If players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup and have no shot at being "consistent". Explain how "Rotating D-Lineman in and out to keep them fresh" works?

Two Examples:

The 2022 Eagles are 13 -2 and have nine interior linemen or overhang players — edge rushers — who've played between 23 and 63 percent of the defensive snaps.

The 2022 Bills 12 - 3 Rotating the defensive linemen is a big part of what McDermott does on defense. In a league where it seems everything is strategized down to the smallest degree, the D-Line rotation is just about keeping guys fresh. "The key to our success is fresh legs, fresh bodies," defensive line coach Bill Teerlinck says.

Are Injuries are the great equalizer, or perhaps it's good coaching vs poor coaching?

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They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat.

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I do not have a problem with Derek Carr.

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Are you serious? Comparing the D-line to the O-line in snap counts?

The defensive linemen are basically freelancers on the field. Other than a stunt here or there they work independently to get to the offensive backfield. Rotating in and out at those positions does indeed keep them fresh.

On the offensive line, however, they all depend greatly upon each other. They must know when to shift assignment and with whom. That's why offensive linemen ideally play 100% of the snaps in a game. Even more ideally they play 100% of the snaps for the entire season. We all know that seldom happens, however, due to the all too common injuries, but it does happen.

For your Philly example, their starting five offensive linemen played 96% or more of the snaps 60 times in 16 games. In game injuries were the only thing that kept them from playing every snap in every game.

For your Bills example, their starting five offensive linemen played 96% or more of the snaps 56 times in 16 games. Ditto above.

Source: https://www.lineups.com/nfl/snap-cou...ne-snap-counts

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... with no guarantee those mid round picks will actually net you a successor to Peat that isn't injured 8 years in a row.

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Just pointing out that blaming a teams record on injuries suffered by the O-Line isn't always valid. I knew comparing O-Line and D-Line would get a reaction! Happy New Year!


The 2020 KC Chiefs started 11 different offensive line combinations through 15 weeks. Kansas City averaged 1 sack per game through the first 11 games then 2.5 sacks per game the 4 weeks after. Finished 14 - 2 and lost to Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl.

The Saints 2021 O-Line only played 22 snaps together, that team (with no wide receivers and using 4 different QB'S) came this close to making the playoffs and posted a 9 - 8 record.

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Exactly!!

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Without a first round pick this year, Carr may be the only chance at finding a suitable QB for the next couple of years.

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Taking on a QB with 3 years left on his deal with cap hits of 33 and 40plus million with the current roster and 50ml in the hole would be stupid. They'd end up adding voided years and just leaving the dead hole of cap issues running till nearly 2030. The roster is a long way from being a contender