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4everSaint 02-07-2021 02:55 PM

I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
His Contract is friendly. He has a strong arm. He is pretty mobile. He will only be 30 in March. I think he would really thrive in our system. The more I'm sitting here thinking about it the more I'm really liking it.

There are rumors The Texans are wanting to trade Carr for Watson and some picks. Raiders fans don't think the Texans will ship Watson to an AFC team.

Only problem for us is we have nothing to really offer in picks.

neugey 02-07-2021 04:00 PM

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At least one QB is going to lose this simulated game of musical chairs. That's when we might want to pounce and pick them up at their cheapest. This morning I was thinking if the Bears do away with Trubisky he could possibly be had for basically nothing. Though Carr I'd definitely want over Trubisky.

st thomas 02-07-2021 10:04 PM

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I’d rather Winston than them 2 clowns, that’s just me.


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NOLA54 02-07-2021 10:32 PM

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That's a hell to the NO.

jnormand 02-07-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 914167)
I’d rather Winston than them 2 clowns, that’s just me.


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I'd take a watermelon with a hat on before Winston. That guy is dumb. And a complete dork.

The Dude 02-08-2021 09:36 AM

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It’s going to be Winston. If he keeps us in contention I’m all for it and will welcome him as a Saint.

K Major 02-08-2021 09:45 AM

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It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation.

That's just too much.

I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one.

gosaints1 02-08-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 914171)
I'd take a watermelon with a hat on before Winston. That guy is dumb. And a complete dork.

iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Rsanders24 02-08-2021 09:57 AM

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No way I would trade that much for Carr. They are trying to sell high based off his career year but I’d take my chances with Winston versus give up two 1st rd picks.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2021 11:33 AM

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This year we will draft to fill a lot of needs and might even move back a time or two to get more draft picks. I don't see us trading up until we have put the roster back in tact to where we have been since '17.

Sell high and buy cheap does not include QB. "whoever" is left over out there will be a back up at most.

QBREES9 02-09-2021 11:58 AM

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Just say NO to WINSTON!

K Major 02-09-2021 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 914243)

Sell high and buy cheap does not include QB. "whoever" is left over out there will be a back up at most.

Winston, Trubisky :rolleyes:, Brisette, Fig Newton, Dalton, Colt McKoy or Tyrod Taylor.

Slim pickens for a cap strapped team. I'd take the guy who has sat, watched and hopefully studied with a soon to be Hall of Fame QB & Coach Sean Payton over any of these other guys.

But hey, that's just me ;).

AsylumGuido 02-09-2021 12:12 PM

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I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 914249)
I'd like to see Brees get that rotator cuff repaired and give it another go with fans in the stands and a full season without a fluke injury. Now that he's carrying only a league minimum salary he'll be a less expensive option than anyone else out there ... by far.

If only.....

AsylumGuido 02-09-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 914251)
If only.....

If he knew for a fact he was going to retire he would have already announced that fact. That leads me to believe he's doing exactly what he said and seriously considering all options, just as he has done each of the past four off-seasons. He very well may end up deciding to retire, but with an extremely team friendly contract already in place for the 2021 season the opportunity to return remains very plausible.

shawnkytonk 02-09-2021 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914194)
It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation.

That's just too much.

I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one.

If that's the case, he isn't getting traded.

SmashMouth 02-09-2021 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 914100)
His Contract is friendly. He has a strong arm. He is pretty mobile. He will only be 30 in March. I think he would really thrive in our system. The more I'm sitting here thinking about it the more I'm really liking it.

There are rumors The Texans are wanting to trade Carr for Watson and some picks. Raiders fans don't think the Texans will ship Watson to an AFC team.

Only problem for us is we have nothing to really offer in picks.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914194)
It's been reported that the Raiders would want 2 firsts for D Carr in a trade. I like Carr as a player but not at that compensation.

That's just too much.

I don't think the Saints will be active players in this one.

That's a NEAUX, Dog.

Advice from a Wall Street Investor.. Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around.

i think I may be on board with KMajor's pick in the draft, Mac Jones. He may just fall to us. And a rookie contract is way more cap friendly.

RailBoss 02-10-2021 02:31 AM

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I think Derek Carr has let the Black Hole seep into his brain.
Not sure SP with a team of Psychotherapists or even a Voodoo Priestess could snap him back.

TheOak 02-10-2021 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 914196)
iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Wonderlic does not put them on the same level intellectually, it puts them on the same level cognitively. Wonderlic in short is logic vs emotion and the reason that it is extremely difficult to correlate to intellect is because bad logic is still logic.

The two are related and intertwined but intellect requires objectivity, cognitive function doesn't. A Wonderlic has math, an IQ test has numbers and favors the ability to identify patterns.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 06:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 914196)
iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Winston stole the test answers, Brees didn’t.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 914254)
If he knew for a fact he was going to retire he would have already announced that fact. That leads me to believe he's doing exactly what he said and seriously considering all options, just as he has done each of the past four off-seasons. He very well may end up deciding to retire, but with an extremely team friendly contract already in place for the 2021 season the opportunity to return remains very plausible.

I saw a video yesterday Guido that may have an answer on this. It seemed to indicate that if he retires before a certain date (sometime in June if I remember correctly) then about 11 million in cap hit comes into play. If it is after that date, then it doesn’t. So, he could have made his mind up but can’t say so yet without putting a dent in the Saint’s financial situation.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2021 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914284)
I saw a video yesterday Guido that may have an answer on this. It seemed to indicate that if he retires before a certain date (sometime in June if I remember correctly) then about 11 million in cap hit comes into play. If it is after that date, then it doesn’t. So, he could have made his mind up but can’t say so yet without putting a dent in the Saint’s financial situation.

June 1st is the date that remaining guarantees are carried into the following years. Yes, the date is important, but I believe just announcing the decision to retire doesn't trigger anything. What is important is when the papers are officially sent to the league office. He can announce he plans to retire today, but it doesn't become official until those papers arrive.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 09:37 AM

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Maybe so. I’m not saying I’m correct, but the vid I watched seemed to indicate it did matter. In fact one guy mentioned Godell coming down on the Saints for violating the “spirit of the law” for doing this if Brees does in fact know he is retiring. Again, I wouldn’t bet money on it though.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 10:18 AM

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3:10 mark they talk about it.


AsylumGuido 02-10-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914298)

I listened to the interview. They both said that it has been based upon the date the paperwork is delivered. That has always been my understanding for trades or cuts specifically, but a retirement would fall under the exact same guidelines. What they appeared to be saying is that IF there was a way to screw the Saints over, Goodell would. This is a commonly used rule so I don't think there would be an issue. That said, I'm still not counting Brees as retired until he makes an announcement and I don't think he's made any announcement yet because he hasn't made that decision.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 12:03 PM

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And I think he has made his decision. And I think not announcing it until after June 1 is important.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914310)
And I think he has made his decision. And I think not announcing it until after June 1 is important.

I'd be willing to place a wager on that. I'll bet you that he will announce his intentions (return or retire) well before the June 1st timeframe.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 914312)
I'd be willing to place a wager on that. I'll bet you that he will announce his intentions (return or retire) well before the June 1st timeframe.

How about a hurricane at Patty’ Os ?

AsylumGuido 02-10-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914314)
How about a hurricane at Patty’ Os ?

Make mine a Long Island Ice Tea and you've got it.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 914315)
Make mine a Long Island Ice Tea and you've got it.

Deal LOL. Last time I was at Pats (3 plus yea are) there was a Bachelorette party in the courtyard corner. I was meeting up with my Ca friend Matt to party up. We shared a table with them until a rat scurried underfoot and they noticed them running on the vine covered walls. Almost caused a riot ! Winner gets a round Next time we can all be at Pats.

AsylumGuido 02-10-2021 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914316)
Deal LOL. Last time I was at Pats (3 plus yea are) there was a Bachelorette party in the courtyard corner. I was meeting up with my Ca friend Matt to party up. We shared a table with them until a rat scurried underfoot and they noticed them running on the vine covered walls. Almost caused a riot ! Winner gets a round Next time we can all be at Pats.

Got it.

Rugby Saint II 02-10-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 914316)
Deal LOL. Last time I was at Pats (3 plus yea are) there was a Bachelorette party in the courtyard corner. I was meeting up with my Ca friend Matt to party up. We shared a table with them until a rat scurried underfoot and they noticed them running on the vine covered walls. Almost caused a riot ! Winner gets a round Next time we can all be at Pats.

Was Roger Godhell there? He's the first rat that jumps out in my mind. :wink:

st thomas 02-10-2021 10:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 914325)
Was Roger Godhell there? He's the first rat that jumps out in my mind. :wink:


Lol


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4everSaint 02-11-2021 10:30 PM

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Fletcher Mackel sports column: Could Derek Carr replace Drew Brees as Saints QB?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wds...ts-qb/35475161

AsylumGuido 12-28-2022 01:54 PM

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Looks like the Derek Carr speculation has risen again.


voodooido 12-28-2022 02:33 PM

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Care is a solid option. Not at the price tag he Carrie’s but he is much much better than anything we have now.

Rugby Saint II 12-28-2022 02:49 PM

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Derek Carr would be a good stop Gap if he didn't throw so dang many interceptions. The fact that they are benching him speaks volumes. I don't think we have the right offensive coordinator to get the most from him. Hopefully, that's going to change during the off season.

AsylumGuido 12-28-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 966225)
Derek Carr would be a good stop Gap if he didn't throw so dang many interceptions. The fact that they are benching him speaks volumes. I don't think we have the right offensive coordinator to get the most from him. Hopefully, that's going to change during the off season.

They are benching him to make sure he doesn't get injured in the final two games. If he was to get injured they'd have to pay the injury guarantee and wouldn't be able to trade him for any value.

saintsfan1976 12-28-2022 05:50 PM

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Put Payton Manning back there. Won't matter if the O line isn't more consistent.

NOLA54 12-28-2022 06:10 PM

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Let me think about this. NO!


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