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BakoSaint 12-28-2022 08:03 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
Carr is ok but its better to find an ok qb with a second day draft pick because they are way cheaper and younger. We are not one player away. We need the cash to pay for dead cap costs of cutting dead weight.

AsylumGuido 12-29-2022 09:58 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966232)
Put Payton Manning back there. Won't matter if the O line isn't more consistent.

Consistency is totally dependent upon health. There isn't a team in the league that can be consistent on the offensive line when they are missing 60% to 80% of their starters. A successful offensive line is a cohesive unit. It is impossible to develop that cohesiveness with the guy to either side shuffling in and out every other game.

AsylumGuido 12-29-2022 10:00 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 966234)
Carr is ok but its better to find an ok qb with a second day draft pick because they are way cheaper and younger. We are not one player away. We need the cash to pay for dead cap costs of cutting dead weight.

That is all good and fine, but it may take years of picks for one of those drafted QB's to actually pan out.

That doesn't mean I feel we should make a move for Carr, but an established NFL QB is a known quantity, at least, and worth a little more coin.

saintsfan1976 12-29-2022 02:13 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 966245)
Consistency is totally dependent upon health. There isn't a team in the league that can be consistent on the offensive line when they are missing 60% to 80% of their starters. A successful offensive line is a cohesive unit. It is impossible to develop that cohesiveness with the guy to either side shuffling in and out every other game.

And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

K Major 12-29-2022 02:17 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966264)
And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

All this negative is correct.

The Saints need better depth as well.

** Peat has yet to play an entire season in his 8 year NFL career.

saintsfan1976 12-29-2022 02:22 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 966265)
All this negative is correct.

The Saints need better depth as well.

Penning
Upgrade Peat
McCoy
Ruiz
Ram

That's a line Derek Carr could have success behind

K Major 12-29-2022 02:25 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
Speaking of Penning ...

Did anyone see his play vs the Browns? This guy was moving grown men off the line a few times.

I think he becomes the truth at tackle.

saintsfan1976 12-29-2022 02:25 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 966267)
Speaking of Penning ...

Did anyone see his play vs the Browns? This guy was moving grown men off the line a few times.

I think he becomes the truth at tackle.

YES!! I can't wait to see us get a LG just as good.

rezburna 12-29-2022 02:39 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
If Payton was here I'd be all for Derek Carr. I feel that way about most of these QB's. I believe in Payton's ability to get the best out of them. Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael? Nah.

AsylumGuido 12-29-2022 03:00 PM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966264)
And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

No kidding. Everyone's third string backups are consistently bad. That why we need the starters to remain healthy to gain that consistency. As long as players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup they have no shot at being "consistent".

Just look at Tampa Bay. They have suffered just as many injuries to their offensive line than the Saints. Their offense is struggling and would easily have three or four more losses without Brady under center.

Injuries are the great equalizer.


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