Russell Wilson

darksoul35 · 02-25-2021, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I was begging for him when he was coming out of Wisconsin. Think we didn’t have a 1st or 2nd and Seattle picked before us in the 3rd. I was clamoring for Watson too...and Lamar Jackson. Nobody ever likes my QB choices here. 😂

I was with you on Jackson

SmashMouth · 02-25-2021, 11:35 PM

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saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2021, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

The Saints make to sort of trade needed to get Wilson and they ain't winning no Superbowl. They have to gut the team (cap hits between 30-40ml for 3 years) to get under the cap and not have any 1sts to fill out needed positions.

Add to that Sportsrac has the Seahawks with 28ml in dead money this year

How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know.

TheOak · 02-26-2021, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know.

When a player is traded the unrecognized already paid money becomes dead cap for the home tea,=m as they paid the player.

There is a possibility of the 2021 salary cap dropping to 175M, which would add 23.2M to the Saints cap hell. .

gosaints1 · 02-26-2021, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know.

This might help a bit.

https://frontofficenfl.com/2017/03/1...-acceleration/

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2021, 06:40 AM

thanks. seems like a non-starter i would imagine

cmike · 02-26-2021, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/8VErvYTwRas

I was all for it until he mentioned the players we’d have to send SEA in order to acquire Russ. No way. The only one maybe and this is a big maybe is Latt. Thomas, AK and Ram should not even be discussed. Sending AK would have to be an even swap.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2021, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

When a player is traded the unrecognized already paid money becomes dead cap for the home tea,=m as they paid the player.

There is a possibility of the 2021 salary cap dropping to 175M, which would add 23.2M to the Saints cap hell. .

Not anymore. They officially raised the minimum cap figure to $180 million last week based upon higher than projected revenues and new TV contract projections. I've heard it should come in higher than that when made official. The figure being mentioned was in the $185 million range. Still not great, but better than expected.

The Dude · 02-26-2021, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

I was all for it until he mentioned the players we’d have to send SEA in order to acquire Russ. No way. The only one maybe and this is a big maybe is Latt. Thomas, AK and Ram should not even be discussed. Sending AK would have to be an even swap.

I think they would most likely want an offensive lineman. Restructure and send them Peat. Or Armstead.

stickman · 02-26-2021, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not anymore. They officially raised the minimum cap figure to $180 million last week based upon higher than projected revenues and new TV contract projections. I've heard it should come in higher than that when made official. The figure being mentioned was in the $185 million range. Still not great, but better than expected.

I will take any help they give us. $10million can turn into one or two players that you either sign or don't have to cut.

02-25-2021, 08:40 PM	#81
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,022	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by rezburna I was begging for him when he was coming out of Wisconsin. Think we didn’t have a 1st or 2nd and Seattle picked before us in the 3rd. I was clamoring for Watson too...and Lamar Jackson. Nobody ever likes my QB choices here. 😂 I was with you on Jackson K Major and rezburna like this.
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02-26-2021, 05:53 AM	#83
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by lee909 The Saints make to sort of trade needed to get Wilson and they ain't winning no Superbowl. They have to gut the team (cap hits between 30-40ml for 3 years) to get under the cap and not have any 1sts to fill out needed positions. Add to that Sportsrac has the Seahawks with 28ml in dead money this year How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know. gosaints1 likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know. When a player is traded the unrecognized already paid money becomes dead cap for the home tea,=m as they paid the player. There is a possibility of the 2021 salary cap dropping to 175M, which would add 23.2M to the Saints cap hell. . saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How does a team get hit with dead cap for trading a player + their contract? I'm asking because I don't know. This might help a bit. https://frontofficenfl.com/2017/03/1...-acceleration/ saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.
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02-26-2021, 06:40 AM	#86
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Russell Wilson thanks. seems like a non-starter i would imagine gosaints1 and K Major like this.

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02-26-2021, 06:47 AM	#87
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/8VErvYTwRas I was all for it until he mentioned the players we’d have to send SEA in order to acquire Russ. No way. The only one maybe and this is a big maybe is Latt. Thomas, AK and Ram should not even be discussed. Sending AK would have to be an even swap.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by TheOak When a player is traded the unrecognized already paid money becomes dead cap for the home tea,=m as they paid the player. There is a possibility of the 2021 salary cap dropping to 175M, which would add 23.2M to the Saints cap hell. . Not anymore. They officially raised the minimum cap figure to $180 million last week based upon higher than projected revenues and new TV contract projections. I've heard it should come in higher than that when made official. The figure being mentioned was in the $185 million range. Still not great, but better than expected.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by cmike I was all for it until he mentioned the players we’d have to send SEA in order to acquire Russ. No way. The only one maybe and this is a big maybe is Latt. Thomas, AK and Ram should not even be discussed. Sending AK would have to be an even swap. I think they would most likely want an offensive lineman. Restructure and send them Peat. Or Armstead.
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02-26-2021, 08:55 AM	#90
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,597	Re: Russell Wilson Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not anymore. They officially raised the minimum cap figure to $180 million last week based upon higher than projected revenues and new TV contract projections. I've heard it should come in higher than that when made official. The figure being mentioned was in the $185 million range. Still not great, but better than expected. I will take any help they give us. $10million can turn into one or two players that you either sign or don't have to cut.