Question about hypothetical trade for Wilson

The Dude · 03-04-2021, 02:22 PM

Si estamos dispuestos a ceder tres primeros y un jugador para llevarse a Seattle, ¿hasta qué punto podríamos llegar en el draft si los cambiamos por selecciones?

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2021, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Si estamos dispuestos a ceder tres primeros y un jugador para llevarse a Seattle, ¿hasta qué punto podríamos llegar en el draft si los cambiamos por selecciones?

You know what you would be getting in Russell Wilson. There is no way to know if those picks would result in anything as worthy.

Más vale pájaro en mano que ciento volando.

Boston Saint · 03-04-2021, 02:58 PM

In fairness, you cant claim you know what you are getting in Wilson. How many Jason Byrd or Coby Fleener or A Peterson type players have resulted in poor signings for the Saints and countless other teams? For every Brees or Brady that was signed as a FA QB that worked out there are the Walshes, Tebows, Castles, Keenum etc that didn’t. Just like your crapshoot idea, you have know way of knowing “exactly” (your word) how Wilson will pan out.

saintfan · 03-04-2021, 03:00 PM

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saintsfan1976 · 03-04-2021, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

In fairness, you cant claim you know what you are getting in Wilson. How many Jason Byrd or Coby Fleener or A Peterson type players have resulted in poor signings for the Saints and countless other teams? For every Brees or Brady that was signed as a FA QB that worked out there are the Walshes, Tebows, Castles, Keenum etc that didn’t. Just like your crapshoot idea, you have know way of knowing “exactly” (your word) how Wilson will pan out.

Bro. You can't compare any of those names with Russell Wilson. We're not talking about one year wonders or running backs in decline. We're talking Elite QB vs Disowned QB with a history of poor choices on and off the field.

Who would you expect to perform better?

The Dude · 03-04-2021, 03:51 PM

Yo! In mah opahnahon Wahlson ahs tao old ta ahnvest dat much capahtal. I would radar roll wahth Wahnstan a' see what da draft has ta offer. Ah be baaad... We wahll lahkely lose a key player or two as we try a' get under da cap ayway. Slap mah fro! nah need ta lose mo. I wouldn’t be surprahsed ahf we part ways wahth Thomas though.

Boston Saint · 03-04-2021, 03:56 PM

Maybe so. But my point is giving up three plus picks/players for Wilson and seeing him not live up to what he’s done before is similar to signing the guys I mentioned for no picks and having them not live up to what they’ve done before. If three picks and Thomas or an O lineman is what it takes to get him then who is going to block/catch for him? He had Metcalf and more solid receivers to throw to last year in Seattle. Why would he do better with what the saints have now minus three years of first round picks?

The Dude · 03-04-2021, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Maybe so. But my point is giving up three plus picks/players for Wilson and seeing him not live up to what he’s done before is similar to signing the guys I mentioned for no picks and having them not live up to what they’ve done before. If three picks and Thomas or an O lineman is what it takes to get him then who is going to block/catch for him? He had Metcalf and more solid receivers to throw to last year in Seattle. Why would he do better with what the saints have now minus three years of first round picks?

I agree with this 100%. If we give up Ram or even Armstead for him he would be in the same situation he’s trying to get out of. He’s also over 30 and mobile. 3 years ago maybe but for all we know Winston could wind up being comparable. Have a feeling Thomas is gone come draft day anyway.

SmashMouth · 03-05-2021, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Si estamos dispuestos a ceder tres primeros y un jugador para llevarse a Seattle, ¿hasta qué punto podríamos llegar en el draft si los cambiamos por selecciones?

Why does it have to be picks to begin with?

Trade them Peat, Armstead, and whoever else is equivalent to a #1 draft pick. Might help us with the cap too.

I believe they DO have Popeyes in Seattle...

subguy · 03-05-2021, 02:07 PM

claro que si

03-04-2021, 02:22 PM	#1
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,166	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Winston Originally Posted by The Dude Si estamos dispuestos a ceder tres primeros y un jugador para llevarse a Seattle, ¿hasta qué punto podríamos llegar en el draft si los cambiamos por selecciones? You know what you would be getting in Russell Wilson. There is no way to know if those picks would result in anything as worthy. Más vale pájaro en mano que ciento volando.

03-04-2021, 02:58 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Winston In fairness, you cant claim you know what you are getting in Wilson. How many Jason Byrd or Coby Fleener or A Peterson type players have resulted in poor signings for the Saints and countless other teams? For every Brees or Brady that was signed as a FA QB that worked out there are the Walshes, Tebows, Castles, Keenum etc that didn’t. Just like your crapshoot idea, you have know way of knowing “exactly” (your word) how Wilson will pan out.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Winston Originally Posted by Boston Saint In fairness, you cant claim you know what you are getting in Wilson. How many Jason Byrd or Coby Fleener or A Peterson type players have resulted in poor signings for the Saints and countless other teams? For every Brees or Brady that was signed as a FA QB that worked out there are the Walshes, Tebows, Castles, Keenum etc that didn’t. Just like your crapshoot idea, you have know way of knowing “exactly” (your word) how Wilson will pan out. Bro. You can't compare any of those names with Russell Wilson. We're not talking about one year wonders or running backs in decline. We're talking Elite QB vs Disowned QB with a history of poor choices on and off the field. Who would you expect to perform better?

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Winston Maybe so. But my point is giving up three plus picks/players for Wilson and seeing him not live up to what he’s done before is similar to signing the guys I mentioned for no picks and having them not live up to what they’ve done before. If three picks and Thomas or an O lineman is what it takes to get him then who is going to block/catch for him? He had Metcalf and more solid receivers to throw to last year in Seattle. Why would he do better with what the saints have now minus three years of first round picks? saintsfan1976 likes this.
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03-04-2021, 08:37 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Winston Originally Posted by Boston Saint Maybe so. But my point is giving up three plus picks/players for Wilson and seeing him not live up to what he’s done before is similar to signing the guys I mentioned for no picks and having them not live up to what they’ve done before. If three picks and Thomas or an O lineman is what it takes to get him then who is going to block/catch for him? He had Metcalf and more solid receivers to throw to last year in Seattle. Why would he do better with what the saints have now minus three years of first round picks? I agree with this 100%. If we give up Ram or even Armstead for him he would be in the same situation he’s trying to get out of. He’s also over 30 and mobile. 3 years ago maybe but for all we know Winston could wind up being comparable. Have a feeling Thomas is gone come draft day anyway.
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03-05-2021, 02:05 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Question about hypothetical trade for Wilson Originally Posted by The Dude Si estamos dispuestos a ceder tres primeros y un jugador para llevarse a Seattle, ¿hasta qué punto podríamos llegar en el draft si los cambiamos por selecciones? Why does it have to be picks to begin with? Trade them Peat, Armstead, and whoever else is equivalent to a #1 draft pick. Might help us with the cap too. I believe they DO have Popeyes in Seattle... darksoul35 and K Major like this.

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