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Old 02-18-2021, 07:50 PM   #1
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I find it...interesting the attitude and comments about Brees and him being too old to get it done. The game before he got hurt, the second TB game he looked just fine throwing for 4 TDS to 4 different receivers. Next week he gets hurt against SF and he isn’t the same for the rest of the year. And I still maintain that had Jared Cook not had the f’d-up plays he did the Saints win the playoff game and probably make the SB. If Brees is as healthy as he was before he broke ribs against the Niners, then I’d gladly take him back for another year.
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:09 AM   #2
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I find it...interesting the attitude and comments about Brees and him being too old to get it done. The game before he got hurt, the second TB game he looked just fine throwing for 4 TDS to 4 different receivers. Next week he gets hurt against SF and he isn’t the same for the rest of the year. And I still maintain that had Jared Cook not had the f’d-up plays he did the Saints win the playoff game and probably make the SB. If Brees is as healthy as he was before he broke ribs against the Niners, then I’d gladly take him back for another year.
Tre'Quan Smith 14 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Adam Trautman 7 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Emmanuel Sanders 12 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Emmanuel Sanders 12 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Not exactly a lot of air yards in those throws; and they were banged up in their secondary at the time...

Also, I believe, Buccaneers DC Todd Bowles as well as HC Arians knew the situation and saved their best stuff for the playoffs, knowing their Superbowl went through New Orleans...

Look, short of one or two more Superbowls, we couldn't have scripted a better run for Brees with the Saints; with the exception of his caving to #cancelculture this past year, the guy really has been a Saint...

Attended a HS football game at Lusher Charter (daughter was Dance Team Captain on competing team) and what I saw in that school's community truly had me impressed; parents talked more about it than game...

But reality is all good things come to an end, and his age and the work he has to put in just throw a ball, never mind an elite level, at his age, which I'm a few years ahead of him, it's just nature finally winning out...
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:16 AM   #3
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Tre'Quan Smith 14 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Adam Trautman 7 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Emmanuel Sanders 12 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Emmanuel Sanders 12 Yd pass from Drew Brees

Not exactly a lot of air yards in those throws; and they were banged up in their secondary at the time...

Also, I believe, Buccaneers DC Todd Bowles as well as HC Arians knew the situation and saved their best stuff for the playoffs, knowing their Superbowl went through New Orleans...

Look, short of one or two more Superbowls, we couldn't have scripted a better run for Brees with the Saints; with the exception of his caving to #cancelculture this past year, the guy really has been a Saint...

Attended a HS football game at Lusher Charter (daughter was Dance Team Captain on competing team) and what I saw in that school's community truly had me impressed; parents talked more about it than game...

But reality is all good things come to an end, and his age and the work he has to put in just throw a ball, never mind an elite level, at his age, which I'm a few years ahead of him, it's just nature finally winning out...
Why is the length of the TD pass make it more impactful? It’s still 6 points. People complained that Hill has no touch. Well, Brees does and always will.
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Why is the length of the TD pass make it more impactful? It’s still 6 points. People complained that Hill has no touch. Well, Brees does and always will.
A touchdown is a touchdown, but when you're unable to hit a WR, in-stride, 20+ yards downfield, then a defense has no fear of the deep ball, they jam at the line and muck up the middle - then you've no offense...

This is what defenses started doing to us the past four years in the playoffs as they no longer felt the need to defend the entire field; watch the games objectively, and you'll see it...

Think of a regular season game as a pawn and a tournament game as a bishop, knight, or rook...
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A touchdown is a touchdown, but when you're unable to hit a WR, in-stride, 20+ yards downfield, then a defense has no fear of the deep ball, they jam at the line and muck up the middle - then you've no offense...

This is what defenses started doing to us the past four years in the playoffs as they no longer felt the need to defend the entire field; watch the games objectively, and you'll see it...

Think of a regular season game as a pawn and a tournament game as a bishop, knight, or rook...
Except I don’t think that Brees weak arm was the reason we lost the last few years in the playoffs. Rodgers and Mahomes don’t have weak arms and they couldn’t beat Tampa either.
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:30 AM   #6
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Look at it this way JP..they beat the eventual SB champs 38-3 at their house. Saints punted once in that game. Near 50/50 split run to pass on play calls. Brees had 270 yards 4 TDs through the air. Sorry if I don’t buy into the narrative of a “geriatric” QB who couldn’t get it done.
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I want Murray back. Hopefully, at a reduced rate. We just need to give him the ball more and let him earn his paycheck. He is the perfect compliment to Kamara with power and deceptive speed. He can take over a game if Sean would let him. He's proven that he is capable but Payton wants the ball in Kamara's hands every play no matter how badly banged up he is.
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A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.
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A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.
It's the same with Thomas, Armstead, Cameron but it doesn't really help as they can't be traded for 2020 picks as far as I'm aware. And the teams needs to be under the cap before then from what I've been reading.

Only way a trade helps is if the plan is tank
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Old 02-21-2021, 11:22 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
A post june 1 trade of Alvin Kamara would also save $2 million against the cap, offer much better long term savings, and more return. The Saints resigned Kamara to make one last run with Brees but it didnt work out and they probably can't win it all with a wrecked salary cap and Brees retiring, so a long term investment in the most expensive 3rd down back in NFL history, great as he is, may not be wise.
Does not compute. Kamara's cap hit this year is $5M. Even if traded after June 1, the cap hit for the next two years would accelerate to $15M each year of 2021 and 2022.

The Saints cannot afford to do anything with Kamara until likely after 2023.

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