Brees coming back?

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2021, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back

If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid.

Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that.

The Dude · 02-20-2021, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid.

Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that.

Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2021, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring.

I was referencing lee's statement, "with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him (Brees) being back". The point is that if lee's argument was Payton honestly wanting Winston back based upon puffing him up, thus expecting Brees to be gone, is faulty, then Brees being gone isn't a given.

TheOak · 02-22-2021, 07:11 AM

Wait for the Golden Nutria

rezburna · 02-22-2021, 11:35 AM

I need him to go man. I feel like if he comes back I’d be wasting my time watching this upcoming season.

Rugby Saint II · 02-22-2021, 01:28 PM

Unfortunately, My heart and my eyes tell me he's done. He's past his prime and can't carry the team anymore. Nor can the team cover for Drew's deficiencies.

I hope he is really good at announcing. He's a very good communicator and sure knows football. I don't think that he'll ever coach in the pros. He's a family man that hasn't spent much time with his family. I don't see him spending the endless hours required to coach. Love ya' Drew.

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2021, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Unfortunately, My heart and my eyes tell me he's done. He's past his prime and can't carry the team anymore. Nor can the team cover for Drew's deficiencies.

I hope he is really good at announcing. He's a very good communicator and sure knows football. I don't think that he'll ever coach in the pros. He's a family man that hasn't spent much time with his family. I don't see him spending the endless hours required to coach. Love ya' Drew.

I have to correct you on one major point, Rugs. Drew has always spent a tremendous amount of time with his family. Probably far more than the rest of us have with ours.

As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard.

Rugby Saint II · 02-22-2021, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have to correct you on one major point, Rugs. Drew has always spent a tremendous amount of time with his family. Probably far more than the rest of us have with ours.

As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard.

My point is that players and coaches need to spend time away from home working out, practicing, doing philanthropy work, and other PR activities. An announcer should have more time to devote to their family than a Pro player with additional requirements. I do realize that Drew goes out of his way to spend time with his family which means announcing games are a better fit than coaching.

Boston Saint · 02-22-2021, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard.

Indeed. Brady didn’t carry Tampa to the title, the overall team did. Conversely, Mahomes, Rodgers, Brees, and 28 other starting QBs couldn’t carry their team to the championship. Sometimes the QB wasn’t good enough but sometimes (for playoff teams especially) it was because of injuries to themselves and/or key teammates.

I fully believe if Brees comes back next season, he will be better than Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flaco, Nick Foles or a handful of other QBs that have won the SB. Just my opinion.

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2021, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My point is that players and coaches need to spend time away from home working out, practicing, doing philanthropy work, and other PR activities. An announcer should have more time to devote to their family than a Pro player with additional requirements. I do realize that Drew goes out of his way to spend time with his family which means announcing games are a better fit than coaching.

I'll agree with you on coaches. Charlie Weis has pointed out that this is why most players shy away from coaching. He has said that coaches spend as much as three times as much time away from their families as players.

02-20-2021, 09:23 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by lee909 After what I've seen from Goddell and the contract restructure I wouldn't rely on rules. He's likely giving himself time but with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him being back If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid. Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that. SaintFanInATLHELL, Rugby Saint II and Garry42 like this.

02-20-2021, 10:23 PM	#42
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If Payton was so high on resigning Winston why would he be pumping him up so much and inflating his value? That makes no sense. It's all fluff, lee. If you want to keep a free agent you don't go out and inflate his value. That's just plain stupid. Edit: But then again, there are some here that are convinced that Sean Payton is stupid. So there's that. Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring.
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02-21-2021, 03:46 PM	#43
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by The Dude Point taken but I don’t see what any of that has to do with Brees staying or retiring. I was referencing lee's statement, "with Payton so vocal on Winston I don't see him (Brees) being back". The point is that if lee's argument was Payton honestly wanting Winston back based upon puffing him up, thus expecting Brees to be gone, is faulty, then Brees being gone isn't a given.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Brees coming back? Unfortunately, My heart and my eyes tell me he's done. He's past his prime and can't carry the team anymore. Nor can the team cover for Drew's deficiencies. I hope he is really good at announcing. He's a very good communicator and sure knows football. I don't think that he'll ever coach in the pros. He's a family man that hasn't spent much time with his family. I don't see him spending the endless hours required to coach. Love ya' Drew. jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Unfortunately, My heart and my eyes tell me he's done. He's past his prime and can't carry the team anymore. Nor can the team cover for Drew's deficiencies. I hope he is really good at announcing. He's a very good communicator and sure knows football. I don't think that he'll ever coach in the pros. He's a family man that hasn't spent much time with his family. I don't see him spending the endless hours required to coach. Love ya' Drew. I have to correct you on one major point, Rugs. Drew has always spent a tremendous amount of time with his family. Probably far more than the rest of us have with ours. As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-22-2021, 01:46 PM	#48
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have to correct you on one major point, Rugs. Drew has always spent a tremendous amount of time with his family. Probably far more than the rest of us have with ours. As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard. My point is that players and coaches need to spend time away from home working out, practicing, doing philanthropy work, and other PR activities. An announcer should have more time to devote to their family than a Pro player with additional requirements. I do realize that Drew goes out of his way to spend time with his family which means announcing games are a better fit than coaching.

02-22-2021, 01:51 PM	#49
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As for carrying the team, that's been the problem. He shouldn't have to carry the team. If he feels that shoulder is healthy enough then he is more than capable of being a significant part of a run to another Super Bowl. I still trust him more than either Winston or Hill in that regard. Indeed. Brady didn’t carry Tampa to the title, the overall team did. Conversely, Mahomes, Rodgers, Brees, and 28 other starting QBs couldn’t carry their team to the championship. Sometimes the QB wasn’t good enough but sometimes (for playoff teams especially) it was because of injuries to themselves and/or key teammates. I fully believe if Brees comes back next season, he will be better than Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Joe Flaco, Nick Foles or a handful of other QBs that have won the SB. Just my opinion. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-22-2021, 01:52 PM	#50
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Brees coming back? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My point is that players and coaches need to spend time away from home working out, practicing, doing philanthropy work, and other PR activities. An announcer should have more time to devote to their family than a Pro player with additional requirements. I do realize that Drew goes out of his way to spend time with his family which means announcing games are a better fit than coaching. I'll agree with you on coaches. Charlie Weis has pointed out that this is why most players shy away from coaching. He has said that coaches spend as much as three times as much time away from their families as players.