2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Boston Saint · 11-23-2021, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Our players are so fragile.

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Rugby Saint II · 11-23-2021, 03:13 PM

How do we get this injured? How long have we had this strength and conditioning coach? The last time we went through this kind of slate of injuries we got a new strength and conditioning coach.

ChrisXVI · 11-23-2021, 04:50 PM

Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block.

I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about.

AsylumGuido · 11-23-2021, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block.

I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about.

Not me. Who you talking about? I don't follow draft build up.

K Major · 11-23-2021, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block.

I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about.

Baker M.?

ChrisXVI · 11-23-2021, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Baker M.?

I’m not advocating it… I’m just looking at possibilities and connecting dots. There was no reason to have that many meetings with a player way out of our reach relative to our draft position.

jeanpierre · 11-23-2021, 10:23 PM

jeanpierre · 11-23-2021, 10:35 PM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Twelve, Rev. 12.1 (Updating)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021) *FP, 7 - Taysom Hill *FP, 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133)

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara *DNP, 14 - Mark Ingram (Trade/HOU) *DNP, 21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 31 - Josh Adams (PS 2021)

FB (2) 45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)

WR-X (3) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 1 - Marquez Callaway, 17 - Kevin White (FA 2021), 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 13 - Michael Thomas (PUP)

WR-S (3) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021) *FP, 87 - Malcolm Perry (FA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *LP, 79 - Jordan Mills (FA 2021)

LG (1) , 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 66 - Forrest Lamp (PS 2021)

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2021)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021)

RT (2) 74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk *DNP

TE (2) 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (FA 2021), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021)

DEFENSE

RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport *DNP, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021) *DNP, 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 70 - Christian Ringo (FA 2021), 95 - Albert Huggins (PS/UDFA 2021)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 91 - Josiah Bronson (FA 2021), 52 - Montravius Adams (PS/UDFA 2021)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021)

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021), 42 - Chase Hansen (PS/RFC 2021)

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021), 36 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021)

NCB (1) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021)

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021)

KICKING

K (1) 6 - Brett Maher (FA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris

53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 26; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 14

Reserve/Injured

89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021)

3 - Wil Lutz

77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021)

73 - Ethan Greenidge

75 - Andrus Peat

2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021)

98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28)

22 - Chauncey Gardner

97 - Malcolm Roach

67 - Landon Young (R6, P206)

82 - Adam Trautman

Reserve/Covid19

Reserve/Retired

80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021)

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2021)

Waivers (Wv 2021)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021)

Practice Squad (PS 2021)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:

*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

jeanpierre · 11-23-2021, 10:40 PM

jeanpierre · 11-23-2021, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Our players are so fragile.

That'd be a fair criticism for some players that have an extended injury history like Mr. Glass (Armstead)...

But that landing Trautman took after getting jacked mid-air, not sure most mortals walk away from that uninjured...

Ramczyk is missing games for the first time in his five year career; and he's the cornerstone of this offensive line for the next five-ten years...

Kamara is getting too many touches behind the line of scrimmage, Sean has to get back to getting him into space...

Ingram will be a 32yo RB in December, so there's that; he should be on a 10 touch minimum, 15 touch max per game...

Tomorrow's injury report will reveal how serious these injuries are, how they're progressing; this time in the season, you gotta rest your studs when you can...

It's easy to look at this as a team issue, and sometimes that's fair; but with the current injury report, gotta be pragmatic and look at each on a case by case basis...

11-23-2021, 03:13 PM	#1352
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook How do we get this injured? How long have we had this strength and conditioning coach? The last time we went through this kind of slate of injuries we got a new strength and conditioning coach.

11-23-2021, 04:50 PM	#1353
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block. I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about.

11-23-2021, 04:54 PM	#1354
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block. I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about. Not me. Who you talking about? I don't follow draft build up.

11-23-2021, 05:19 PM	#1355
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Thinking about the upcoming offseason, there’s a certain QB from the 2018 draft who Payton was obsessed with. They had four pre-draft meetings if I remember correctly. Now there are rumors that the team who drafted him may not want to pay him the big bucks and he could be on the trade block. I’m sure you guys know who I’m talking about. Baker M.?

11-23-2021, 05:28 PM	#1356
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Baker M.? I’m not advocating it… I’m just looking at possibilities and connecting dots. There was no reason to have that many meetings with a player way out of our reach relative to our draft position.

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11-23-2021, 10:23 PM	#1357
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11-23-2021, 10:35 PM	#1358
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2021 New Orleans Saints - Week Twelve, Rev. 12.1 (Updating) OFFENSE QB (3) 15 - Trevor Siemian (FA 2021) FP, 7 - Taysom Hill FP, 16 - Ian Book (R4, P133) RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara DNP, 14 - Mark Ingram (Trade/HOU)* DNP, 21 - Tony Jones Jr. (RFC 2021), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2021), 31 - Josh Adams (PS 2021)* FB (2) *45 - Garrett Griffin (RFC 2021), 40 - Alex Armah (PS 2021), 46 - Adam Prentice (PS 2021)* WR-X (3) 10 - Tre'Quan Smith, 1 - Marquez Callaway, 17 - Kevin White (FA 2021), 14 - Kawaan Baker (PS/R7, P255), 13 - Michael Thomas (PUP) WR-S (3) 88 - Ty Montgomery (FA 2021) FP, 87 - Malcolm Perry (FA 2021), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)* LT (2) *72 - Terron Armstead LP*, 79 - Jordan Mills (FA 2021)* LG (1) , 76 - Calvin Throckmorton (RFC 2021), 66 - Forrest Lamp (PS 2021) C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp (PS 2021) RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 65 - Caleb Benenoch (PS 2021) RT (2) *74 - James Hurst (FA 2021), 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk DNP** TE (2) 81 - Nick Vannett (FA 2021), 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (PS 2021) WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harris, 12 - Kenny Stills (FA 2021), 18 - Easop Winston (PS 2021) DEFENSE RDE (3) *92 - Marcus Davenport DNP*, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon (FA 2021)* DNP, 57 - Jalyn Holmes (PS 2021)* NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle, 70 - Christian Ringo (FA 2021), 95 - Albert Huggins (PS/UDFA 2021) DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 91 - Josiah Bronson (FA 2021), 52 - Montravius Adams (PS/UDFA 2021) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 96 - Carl Granderson WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner (R2, P60), 5 - Kwon Alexander (FA 2021) MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2021), 42 - Chase Hansen (PS/RFC 2021) SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 53 - Zach Baun RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley (FA 2021), 36 - Jordan Miller (PS 2021) NCB (1) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2021) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams (Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag 2021), 48 - J.T. Gray (FA 2021), 37 - Dylan Mabin (PS 2021) SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 38 - Jeff Heath (FA 2021) LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo (R3, P76), 21 - Bradley Roby (FA 2021), 31 - Bryce Thompson (PS 2021) KICKING K (1) *6 - Brett Maher (FA 2021)* P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS () 11 - Deonte Harris* 53-man Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 26; Defense: 24; Kicking: 3; Practice Squad: 14 Reserve/Injured 89 - Dylan Soehner (UDFA 2021) 3 - Wil Lutz 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2021) 73 - Ethan Greenidge 75 - Andrus Peat *2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2021)* 98 - Payton Turner (R1, P28) 22 - Chauncey Gardner 97 - Malcolm Roach 67 - Landon Young (R6, P206) 82 - Adam Trautman Reserve/Covid19 Reserve/Retired 80 - Chris Hogan (FA 2021) Reserve/Non-Football Injury KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2021) Waivers (Wv 2021) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2021) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2021) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2021) Practice Squad (PS 2021) Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) Reserve/Retired Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS: OUT - Out/Left Game INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad LP - Limited Practice DNP - Did Not Practice CP - Concussion Protocol *DTR - Designated To Return
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11-23-2021, 10:40 PM	#1359
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11-23-2021, 10:45 PM	#1360
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by dizzle88 Our players are so fragile. That'd be a fair criticism for some players that have an extended injury history like Mr. Glass (Armstead)... But that landing Trautman took after getting jacked mid-air, not sure most mortals walk away from that uninjured... Ramczyk is missing games for the first time in his five year career; and he's the cornerstone of this offensive line for the next five-ten years... Kamara is getting too many touches behind the line of scrimmage, Sean has to get back to getting him into space... Ingram will be a 32yo RB in December, so there's that; he should be on a 10 touch minimum, 15 touch max per game... Tomorrow's injury report will reveal how serious these injuries are, how they're progressing; this time in the season, you gotta rest your studs when you can... It's easy to look at this as a team issue, and sometimes that's fair; but with the current injury report, gotta be pragmatic and look at each on a case by case basis... AsylumGuido likes this.
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