Saints players complain about 17 game schedule

TheOak · 04-01-2021, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

That's shortsighted. You can have a disagreement about an issue when there's only one person involved. You really believe that a union with over 2000 people are going to be 100% in agreement over this issue?

There are people who did not want the 17th game. The issue was voted upon. They lost that vote. You really believe because the majority voted for an issue that the dissenters lost their right to complain about it?

SFIAH

You are missing the point completely and so are they. A vote not going someone's way is no justification for b1tching and moaning after, that's some new aged millennial liberal crap where tantrums get thrown for years after a vote. Contrary to popular belief, it is very much okay to not agree with something privately and not take it to twitter and a microphone.

Adults take good and bad and move on, otherwise they can resign and do what ever other skill set they possess.

This is being framed inaccurately as the league did not add a game. The league moved a preseason game to the regular season. 2020 was 4 preseason and 16 regular, 2021 is 3 preseason and 17 regular. Total preseason+regular season games in 2021 will be the same as 2020. Ergo they aren't playing more for less money, one could very much argue that the only change is that 1 game that didn't count against their regular season record, now does.

The point is that they want their cake but do not want to clean their plate. They stand sportively behind the union when it adds $ to their paycheck but move one game from preseason to regular season and the fans have to read about complaining.

This is a whole lot of drama over what accounts to 0-more games per season being played. They took the 4th preseason game where starters play and made it count on the record...

This is what the league knows, their game costs are pretty much fixed by stadium. Changing the classification of a game from "pre" to "regular" season increases interest and revenue exponentially.

neugey · 03-29-2021, 06:37 AM

I didn't care for the idea of having an extra game either, but really the Thursday night games are actually the much bigger factor affecting player safety and quality of play.

SmashMouth · 03-29-2021, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

I didn't care for the idea of having an extra game either, but really the Thursday night games are actually the much bigger factor affecting player safety and quality of play.

And now they want to do Fridays?

It's too much during the week. This isn't the NBA. But it's all about the Benjamins.

AsylumGuido · 03-29-2021, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

And now they want to do Fridays?

It's too much during the week. This isn't the NBA. But it's all about the Benjamins.

Only one Friday, Smash. Black Friday.

I for one want as much NFL as I can get. Make it 18 games, instead of 17. Play a game every day of the week, if possible. The logistics are of no concern to me. Just give me the product and let them worry about how they do it. The players are well compensated and will be even better compensated with more broadcast windows every year. Their potential salaries are tied directly to the expanding revenue streams.

Boston Saint · 03-29-2021, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only one Friday, Smash. Black Friday.

I for one want as much NFL as I can get. Make it 18 games, instead of 17. Play a game every day of the week, if possible. The logistics are of no concern to me. Just give me the product and let them worry about how they do it. The players are well compensated and will be even better compensated with more broadcast windows every year. Their potential salaries are tied directly to the expanding revenue streams.

Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion.

AsylumGuido · 03-29-2021, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion.

I'm a glutton. I can't get too much of a good thing. Oh, there's also going to be four Monday night double headers this year instead of just one.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-29-2021, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion.

Actually it won't. The NFL is prohibited from playing Friday games while during the high school football season. That's why the rare Friday NFL game is in late December, like the Saints game on Christmas in 2020.

SFIAH

BakoSaint · 03-29-2021, 02:02 PM

Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support.

Boston Saint · 03-29-2021, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support.

That “Literally” is not true. You are claiming that everyone complained when the candidate they voted for lost an election. I have voted
For the losing candidate in many elections that I accepted gracefully.

TheOak · 03-30-2021, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support.

lit·er·al·ly/ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/

adverb: literally

~ in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
~ Informal - used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.

04-01-2021, 05:02 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL That's shortsighted. You can have a disagreement about an issue when there's only one person involved. You really believe that a union with over 2000 people are going to be 100% in agreement over this issue? There are people who did not want the 17th game. The issue was voted upon. They lost that vote. You really believe because the majority voted for an issue that the dissenters lost their right to complain about it? SFIAH You are missing the point completely and so are they. A vote not going someone's way is no justification for b1tching and moaning after, that's some new aged millennial liberal crap where tantrums get thrown for years after a vote. Contrary to popular belief, it is very much okay to not agree with something privately and not take it to twitter and a microphone. Adults take good and bad and move on, otherwise they can resign and do what ever other skill set they possess. This is being framed inaccurately as the league did not add a game. The league moved a preseason game to the regular season. 2020 was 4 preseason and 16 regular, 2021 is 3 preseason and 17 regular. Total preseason+regular season games in 2021 will be the same as 2020. Ergo they aren't playing more for less money, one could very much argue that the only change is that 1 game that didn't count against their regular season record, now does. The point is that they want their cake but do not want to clean their plate. They stand sportively behind the union when it adds $ to their paycheck but move one game from preseason to regular season and the fans have to read about complaining. This is a whole lot of drama over what accounts to 0-more games per season being played. They took the 4th preseason game where starters play and made it count on the record... This is what the league knows, their game costs are pretty much fixed by stadium. Changing the classification of a game from "pre" to "regular" season increases interest and revenue exponentially. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, st thomas and 1 others like this.
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03-29-2021, 06:37 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule I didn't care for the idea of having an extra game either, but really the Thursday night games are actually the much bigger factor affecting player safety and quality of play. MatthewT, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

03-29-2021, 10:20 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by neugey I didn't care for the idea of having an extra game either, but really the Thursday night games are actually the much bigger factor affecting player safety and quality of play. And now they want to do Fridays? It's too much during the week. This isn't the NBA. But it's all about the Benjamins.

03-29-2021, 11:20 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by SmashMouth And now they want to do Fridays? It's too much during the week. This isn't the NBA. But it's all about the Benjamins. Only one Friday, Smash. Black Friday. I for one want as much NFL as I can get. Make it 18 games, instead of 17. Play a game every day of the week, if possible. The logistics are of no concern to me. Just give me the product and let them worry about how they do it. The players are well compensated and will be even better compensated with more broadcast windows every year. Their potential salaries are tied directly to the expanding revenue streams.

03-29-2021, 11:41 AM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only one Friday, Smash. Black Friday. I for one want as much NFL as I can get. Make it 18 games, instead of 17. Play a game every day of the week, if possible. The logistics are of no concern to me. Just give me the product and let them worry about how they do it. The players are well compensated and will be even better compensated with more broadcast windows every year. Their potential salaries are tied directly to the expanding revenue streams. Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion. Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-29-2021, 11:47 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by Boston Saint Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion. I'm a glutton. I can't get too much of a good thing. Oh, there's also going to be four Monday night double headers this year instead of just one. Euphoria and jeanpierre like this.

03-29-2021, 09:32 PM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by Boston Saint Yeah, but that one Friday will quickly expand once they get the foot in the door. I understand the desire to have it on multiple/every night, but that would wear down the appeal a bit IMO. Part of the savor of it is the anticipation of NFL Sunday for me. If it blends into just another “Who’s playing tonight” affair, then the product would diminish. Just my opinion. Actually it won't. The NFL is prohibited from playing Friday games while during the high school football season. That's why the rare Friday NFL game is in late December, like the Saints game on Christmas in 2020. SFIAH

03-29-2021, 02:02 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,304	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support.
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03-29-2021, 02:24 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by BakoSaint Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support. That “Literally” is not true. You are claiming that everyone complained when the candidate they voted for lost an election. I have voted For the losing candidate in many elections that I accepted gracefully.

03-30-2021, 08:44 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Saints players complain about 17 game schedule Originally Posted by BakoSaint Literally everyone has complained about the results of some election where their peers outvoted them and someone or some measure won that they did not support. lit·er·al·ly/ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/ adverb: literally ~ in a literal manner or sense; exactly. ~ Informal - used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.