Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total

Boston Saint · 04-06-2021, 05:20 PM

I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT.

jnormand · 04-06-2021, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT.

Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol.

Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy!

Bahahaha!

But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right!

halloween 65 · 04-06-2021, 05:50 PM

Add a good TE to the mix, and he cuts the int.'s in half and I'm sold. The guy has a good deep ball and can run.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol.

Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy!

Bahahaha!

But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right!

Except I (and others) aren’t making any predictions at all. I’m questioning the “He sucks so don’t give him a chance” narrative that VD and others are pushing without reason. His performance so far as an NFL QB indicates otherwise. It is not possible to make a pro bowl, throw for 5 grand and 30+ TDs in a season and be a “Trash” player.

gosaints1 · 04-06-2021, 06:31 PM

I asked 100 random female Saints fans what their favorite shampoo was. The overwhelming reply:

“Get the eff out of my shower jackwad!”

I’m not a fan of Jameis’ personality, it hits me in the wrong places, but I think he’ll be just fine as a Saints passer, if he has learned how to be a better game manager from one of the best game managers to have ever suited up, for any team.

Me? I’m excited to see what the young man can do.

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2021, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Grandstanding or just outright annoying people. That sounds more accurate then optimism. Either that or blindly believing in something to the point that they can't see fault. Which is probably more the case.

It's an ongoing and rampant issue with humanity right now. Especially in many facets of Amercian society.

Man, you are a hater, huh?

The Dude · 04-06-2021, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Yeah but that team also had Rankins,Hendrickson,JackRabbit etc

As it stands right now

WR 2 Tre'Quan Smith
CB 2 Patrick Robinson

Then look at the 3rd string LB,DE and DT

This isn't the roster of the past 3 or 4 years.
Plenty of time to add some pieces but its not like there is a big pit of money to do it with.

Exactly. I don’t think we had to play from behind in any of those games. Defense and special teams held the lead. We have lost key players to both.
Even if we had Brees when he was in his prime I think we would still struggle with our current roster.
We could get lucky in the draft, players could step up, and we could strike gold with an UDFA. Highly unlikely though.

voodooido · 04-06-2021, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Not true. He had offers from other teams he turned down. Another sign of your unwarranted evaluation of him.

Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers

Boston Saint · 04-06-2021, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers

Here is one example report:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/saintsw...ract-news/amp/

subguy · 04-06-2021, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... after they abandoned Arians' offense and went with Brady's. Not to mention the fact that Brady may be the best QB to ever play the game. I'm no fan of Winston's either, but to say he's trash is simply incorrect. He could easily start for half the teams in the league.

This is true, but unfortunate we may in that 1/2 of the teams that may have to endure him starting. I will gladly admit I am wrong about being skeptical of Winston if he proves other wise. Hill or Winston, two mediocre options for the Saints. This has nothing to do with athletic ability, both have that.

04-06-2021, 05:20 PM	#41
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT.

04-06-2021, 05:41 PM	#42
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by Boston Saint I guess I just can’t agree calling a Heisman winning, number one overall pick, 5000 yard season passer who has never had a season with more INTs than TDs and beat the Saints asses as a rookie “Trash”. He has more credentials than Brees had when he came to the Saints....FACT. Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol. Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy! Bahahaha! But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right! Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Add a good TE to the mix, and he cuts the int.'s in half and I'm sold. The guy has a good deep ball and can run. Boston Saint likes this.

04-06-2021, 06:07 PM	#44
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by jnormand Um...fair points Boston. But I wouldn't use "beat the Saint's asses as a rookie" as a point. That list is long and full of garbage QBs that the Saints defense made look like HOFers! Lol! Or use Brees and Winston in the same sentence. lol. Damn...some of you guys act like Winston is bangin your sister and buys you candy to keep you happy! Bahahaha! But seriously bro, we'll all see what he brings to the table this season. If anything, pepes on both sides of the aisle here should have their crow gumbo ready to go. Because someone is gonna be wrong. And someone is gonna be right! Except I (and others) aren’t making any predictions at all. I’m questioning the “He sucks so don’t give him a chance” narrative that VD and others are pushing without reason. His performance so far as an NFL QB indicates otherwise. It is not possible to make a pro bowl, throw for 5 grand and 30+ TDs in a season and be a “Trash” player. jnormand likes this.

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04-06-2021, 06:54 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by jnormand Grandstanding or just outright annoying people. That sounds more accurate then optimism. Either that or blindly believing in something to the point that they can't see fault. Which is probably more the case. It's an ongoing and rampant issue with humanity right now. Especially in many facets of Amercian society. Man, you are a hater, huh?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by lee909 Yeah but that team also had Rankins,Hendrickson,JackRabbit etc As it stands right now WR 2 Tre'Quan Smith CB 2 Patrick Robinson Then look at the 3rd string LB,DE and DT This isn't the roster of the past 3 or 4 years. Plenty of time to add some pieces but its not like there is a big pit of money to do it with. Exactly. I don’t think we had to play from behind in any of those games. Defense and special teams held the lead. We have lost key players to both. Even if we had Brees when he was in his prime I think we would still struggle with our current roster. We could get lucky in the draft, players could step up, and we could strike gold with an UDFA. Highly unlikely though.
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04-06-2021, 08:45 PM	#48
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by Boston Saint Not true. He had offers from other teams he turned down. Another sign of your unwarranted evaluation of him. Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers
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04-06-2021, 09:27 PM	#49
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by voodooido Can you back this up? I haven’t seen any other offers Here is one example report: https://www.google.com/amp/s/saintsw...ract-news/amp/

04-06-2021, 10:30 PM	#50
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,057	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ... after they abandoned Arians' offense and went with Brady's. Not to mention the fact that Brady may be the best QB to ever play the game. I'm no fan of Winston's either, but to say he's trash is simply incorrect. He could easily start for half the teams in the league. This is true, but unfortunate we may in that 1/2 of the teams that may have to endure him starting. I will gladly admit I am wrong about being skeptical of Winston if he proves other wise. Hill or Winston, two mediocre options for the Saints. This has nothing to do with athletic ability, both have that. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.