2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston

jnormand · 05-23-2021, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't have anti-Winston based on that. It was eating the W, stupid decisions, poor game management. and his overall record. The guy looks like he's missing few brain cells....at least he always came across that way to me.

Nonetheless, he's a Saint now and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt but I am not on his band wagon until he proves himself.

Same.

Everyone is hanging on his jock. I'm not doing that. No way. He's had a good team around him before and didn't become some sort of super star.

He still ate W's, threw picks and was a bad decision maker.

I admit that he definitely adds a dimension to the offense that hasn't been there for a few years (arm strength) but I'll hold off on my excitement.

Sorry, I've never been a fan of Winston. Still am not. I hope he makes me one.

iceshack149 · 05-23-2021, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Same.

Everyone is hanging on his jock. I'm not doing that. No way. He's had a good team around him before and didn't become some sort of super star.

He still ate W's, threw picks and was a bad decision maker.

I admit that he definitely adds a dimension to the offense that hasn't been there for a few years (arm strength) but I'll hold off on my excitement.

Sorry, I've never been a fan of Winston. Still am not. I hope he makes me one.

I haven't really seen a lot of posters here being totally enamoured by Winston. I think most of us know that he's made some terrible decsions on and off the field and we hope that he flips the switch from a spoiled prima donna athlete to a guy that behaves like a mature man.
We've read some thoughful responses from Winston that give us hope but he still acts like a large child once in a while.
I consider him Aaron Brooks 2.0 which isn't a terrible thing.

Being shipped out of Tampa, losing a large chunck of money, and spending a season with Drew Brees has to change him for the better, right?

Rugby Saint II · 05-23-2021, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I haven't really seen a lot of posters here being totally enamoured by Winston. I think most of us know that he's made some terrible decsions on and off the field and we hope that he flips the switch from a spoiled prima donna athlete to a guy that behaves like a mature man.
We've read some thoughful responses from Winston that give us hope but he still acts like a large child once in a while.
I consider him Aaron Brooks 2.0 which isn't a terrible thing.

Being shipped out of Tampa, losing a large chunck of money, and spending a season with Drew Brees has to change him for the better, right?

We can only hope that Winston's new self exploration and revision is working and that he not only makes better decisions on the field but also off the field as well.
I can't fault people for being optimistic. He has a cannon for an arm and we haven't had a QB with arm strength in several years. Yeah yeah, I know that Drew was never known for his arm strength but for his accuracy, timing, and being a quick decision maker who doesn't make many mistakes.

I am slightly optimistic about Winston because Payton is known as the QB whisperer and Winston seems fully dedicated to improving himself. Fingers crossed.

05-23-2021, 09:00 AM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't have anti-Winston based on that. It was eating the W, stupid decisions, poor game management. and his overall record. The guy looks like he's missing few brain cells....at least he always came across that way to me. Nonetheless, he's a Saint now and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt but I am not on his band wagon until he proves himself. Same. Everyone is hanging on his jock. I'm not doing that. No way. He's had a good team around him before and didn't become some sort of super star. He still ate W's, threw picks and was a bad decision maker. I admit that he definitely adds a dimension to the offense that hasn't been there for a few years (arm strength) but I'll hold off on my excitement. Sorry, I've never been a fan of Winston. Still am not. I hope he makes me one. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-23-2021, 11:16 AM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by jnormand Same. Everyone is hanging on his jock. I'm not doing that. No way. He's had a good team around him before and didn't become some sort of super star. He still ate W's, threw picks and was a bad decision maker. I admit that he definitely adds a dimension to the offense that hasn't been there for a few years (arm strength) but I'll hold off on my excitement. Sorry, I've never been a fan of Winston. Still am not. I hope he makes me one. I haven't really seen a lot of posters here being totally enamoured by Winston. I think most of us know that he's made some terrible decsions on and off the field and we hope that he flips the switch from a spoiled prima donna athlete to a guy that behaves like a mature man. We've read some thoughful responses from Winston that give us hope but he still acts like a large child once in a while. I consider him Aaron Brooks 2.0 which isn't a terrible thing. Being shipped out of Tampa, losing a large chunck of money, and spending a season with Drew Brees has to change him for the better, right? Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-23-2021, 12:31 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by iceshack149 I haven't really seen a lot of posters here being totally enamoured by Winston. I think most of us know that he's made some terrible decsions on and off the field and we hope that he flips the switch from a spoiled prima donna athlete to a guy that behaves like a mature man. We've read some thoughful responses from Winston that give us hope but he still acts like a large child once in a while. I consider him Aaron Brooks 2.0 which isn't a terrible thing. Being shipped out of Tampa, losing a large chunck of money, and spending a season with Drew Brees has to change him for the better, right? We can only hope that Winston's new self exploration and revision is working and that he not only makes better decisions on the field but also off the field as well. I can't fault people for being optimistic. He has a cannon for an arm and we haven't had a QB with arm strength in several years. Yeah yeah, I know that Drew was never known for his arm strength but for his accuracy, timing, and being a quick decision maker who doesn't make many mistakes. I am slightly optimistic about Winston because Payton is known as the QB whisperer and Winston seems fully dedicated to improving himself. Fingers crossed. SmashMouth likes this.
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