2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston

SmashMouth · 05-21-2021, 11:07 AM

Another outside-the-box candidate, no doubt about that. I considered Alvin Kamara, but it is just so tough for running backs to win this award. And I still have Sean Payton's comments ringing in my ear from earlier this year, when he told me on SiriusXM Radio that Winston can be a star in his offense. I believe that to be true. Payton is that special. And hey, Winston was a No. 1 overall pick, with the raw arm talent never in question. The QB learned the offense last year. This year, it's time to take off. I think Jameis can live up to his potential in New Orleans.

I don't want to hear the name Taysom Hill. I expect Winston to win the job, throw a ton of touchdown passes, substantially cut down on the picks and be an upgrade in the passing attack from the 2020 version of Drew Brees.

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Boston Saint · 05-21-2021, 11:59 AM

i’m gonna repeat myself I know. But Payton Manning had a 28 int season with 26 TDs. Favre had a 29 season with only 20 TDs. Tarkenton and Stabler both had more Ints in a season than Winston did in fewer games as seasons were shorter. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people want to write him off for a 34 TD/30 Int season; especially considering he has NEVER had a season with more Ints than TDs.

SaintGnome · 05-21-2021, 01:01 PM

Honestly, I'd be happy with serviceable while leaning heavy on the running game and the D.

Boston Saint · 05-21-2021, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Honestly, I'd be happy with serviceable while leaning heavy on the running game and the D.

I’d take that too.

K Major · 05-21-2021, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Honestly, I'd be happy with serviceable while leaning heavy on the running game and the D.

We shall see.

AK, Latavius and newly signed FB Armah … running the football is always a good option.

ChrisXVI · 05-21-2021, 06:22 PM

Drew never won it, Jameis ain’t winning it.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2021, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

i’m gonna repeat myself I know. But Payton Manning had a 28 int season with 26 TDs. Favre had a 29 season with only 20 TDs. Tarkenton and Stabler both had more Ints in a season than Winston did in fewer games as seasons were shorter. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people want to write him off for a 34 TD/30 Int season; especially considering he has NEVER had a season with more Ints than TDs.

I know you have repeated that many times. It makes perfect sense.

Haters gonna hate. That's just the way it is. I am growing extremely excited about the possibilities now that I am coming down off the Brees high.

If anyone out there still tries to claim anti-Winston bias based upon ONE season of 33 TD's and 30 picks then I'm sorry. You are full of sh!t. Look at Boston's numbers. THINK! Move beyond whatever you have against him (Winston) and realize we may be in a great position right now.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2021, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Drew never won it, Jameis ain’t winning it.

The irony is that Winston may win it when Brees never did.

Boston Saint · 05-21-2021, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The irony is that Winston may win it when Brees never did.

I’d settle for Comeback Player of the Year!

The Dude · 05-21-2021, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

We shall see.

AK, Latavius and newly signed FB Armah … running the football is always a good option.

One would think.....

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,116 Blog Entries: 29	2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Another outside-the-box candidate, no doubt about that. I considered Alvin Kamara, but it is just so tough for running backs to win this award. And I still have Sean Payton's comments ringing in my ear from earlier this year, when he told me on SiriusXM Radio that Winston can be a star in his offense. I believe that to be true. Payton is that special. And hey, Winston was a No. 1 overall pick, with the raw arm talent never in question. The QB learned the offense last year. This year, it's time to take off. I think Jameis can live up to his potential in New Orleans. I don't want to hear the name Taysom Hill. I expect Winston to win the job, throw a ton of touchdown passes, substantially cut down on the picks and be an upgrade in the passing attack from the 2020 version of Drew Brees. Link Back on NFL.com iceshack149 and leilung like this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston i’m gonna repeat myself I know. But Payton Manning had a 28 int season with 26 TDs. Favre had a 29 season with only 20 TDs. Tarkenton and Stabler both had more Ints in a season than Winston did in fewer games as seasons were shorter. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people want to write him off for a 34 TD/30 Int season; especially considering he has NEVER had a season with more Ints than TDs. leilung, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Honestly, I'd be happy with serviceable while leaning heavy on the running game and the D. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by SaintGnome Honestly, I'd be happy with serviceable while leaning heavy on the running game and the D. I’d take that too.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by Boston Saint i’m gonna repeat myself I know. But Payton Manning had a 28 int season with 26 TDs. Favre had a 29 season with only 20 TDs. Tarkenton and Stabler both had more Ints in a season than Winston did in fewer games as seasons were shorter. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people want to write him off for a 34 TD/30 Int season; especially considering he has NEVER had a season with more Ints than TDs. I know you have repeated that many times. It makes perfect sense. Haters gonna hate. That's just the way it is. I am growing extremely excited about the possibilities now that I am coming down off the Brees high. If anyone out there still tries to claim anti-Winston bias based upon ONE season of 33 TD's and 30 picks then I'm sorry. You are full of sh!t. Look at Boston's numbers. THINK! Move beyond whatever you have against him (Winston) and realize we may be in a great position right now. st thomas and Boston Saint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Drew never won it, Jameis ain’t winning it. The irony is that Winston may win it when Brees never did. leilung likes this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,878	Re: 2021 NFL MVP dark horses: Don't sleep on Justin Herbert, Carson Wentz, Jameis Winston Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The irony is that Winston may win it when Brees never did. I’d settle for Comeback Player of the Year! st thomas likes this.

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