Saints Are Offering Refunds

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit.

JayFoster · 08-23-2021, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit.

Sure.

Here's a few:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439

halloween 65 · 08-24-2021, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

Sure.

Here's a few:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439

My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it.

JayFoster · 08-24-2021, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it.

I don't think you read these articles correctly.

AsylumGuido · 08-24-2021, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

I don't think you read these articles correctly.

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

JayFoster · 08-24-2021, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

I hear you and you are probably correct.

I mean every study from every credible medical organization in America says differently (the same doctors we all trust to do heart surgery, brain surgery, etc.) but we somehow come to a different conclusion.

I don't think he read the studies because I intentionally posted a study from Science that was the same study on a pubmed link I posted. But, he never noticed and it appears he thought that since the study was in Science it was somehow suspect. The conclusion of the study: face masks were found to effectively limit probability of COVID-19 transmission.

I could post dozens more but you are right, it is probably pointless.

halloween 65 · 08-24-2021, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure.

Boston Saint · 08-25-2021, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure.

Agreed. “These people”.... “Every credible study”... The arrogant language used by some to demonize their opponents is chilling. It is used by people that won’t engage in dialogue under the guise of doing what is best for the public good. It’s narcissistic control. Forcing a mask on children and comparing doing so with a haircut while ridiculing people that have the audacity to question the need is right in line with, and only a few steps away from, forcing a female to wear a burka or slapping a star on striped pajama wearing person and sending them away on railroad cars. When a person questions the need for personal freedoms they are lost.

08-22-2021, 09:12 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org. The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit. jnormand and jeanpierre like this.

08-23-2021, 05:41 PM	#2
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit. Sure. Here's a few: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439
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08-24-2021, 07:50 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster Sure. Here's a few: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439 My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it. jeanpierre likes this.

08-24-2021, 04:40 PM	#4
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it. I don't think you read these articles correctly.
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08-24-2021, 05:22 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster I don't think you read these articles correctly. Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

08-24-2021, 07:15 PM	#6
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others. I hear you and you are probably correct. I mean every study from every credible medical organization in America says differently (the same doctors we all trust to do heart surgery, brain surgery, etc.) but we somehow come to a different conclusion. I don't think he read the studies because I intentionally posted a study from Science that was the same study on a pubmed link I posted. But, he never noticed and it appears he thought that since the study was in Science it was somehow suspect. The conclusion of the study: face masks were found to effectively limit probability of COVID-19 transmission. I could post dozens more but you are right, it is probably pointless.
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08-24-2021, 10:38 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others. Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure. iceshack149 and Boston Saint like this.

08-25-2021, 11:40 AM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure. Agreed. “These people”.... “Every credible study”... The arrogant language used by some to demonize their opponents is chilling. It is used by people that won’t engage in dialogue under the guise of doing what is best for the public good. It’s narcissistic control. Forcing a mask on children and comparing doing so with a haircut while ridiculing people that have the audacity to question the need is right in line with, and only a few steps away from, forcing a female to wear a burka or slapping a star on striped pajama wearing person and sending them away on railroad cars. When a person questions the need for personal freedoms they are lost. iceshack149, jeanpierre and halloween 65 like this.
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