Saints Are Offering Refunds

JayFoster · 08-22-2021, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Dude.... If it protects me then it protects them.But let me get this through to that thick skull of yours, only if it's a properly rated mask does it work. That is the point. I think you would try to convince a door knob it can only be turned one way. Your pretty close to the drama queen aspect aren't you? You like to THINK you are right but really don't have a clue about certain things in the least and WILL keep on and on and on and on about it. Really sad, I would feel sorry for you and people like you but I don't and want, ever. So keep on spewing out what you think you know, whether you really know it or not. I'm getting a kick out of it, how about you?

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit.

JayFoster · 08-23-2021, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit.

Sure.

Here's a few:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439

halloween 65 · 08-24-2021, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

Sure.

Here's a few:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439

My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it.

JayFoster · 08-24-2021, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it.

I don't think you read these articles correctly.

AsylumGuido · 08-24-2021, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

I don't think you read these articles correctly.

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

JayFoster · 08-24-2021, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

I hear you and you are probably correct.

I mean every study from every credible medical organization in America says differently (the same doctors we all trust to do heart surgery, brain surgery, etc.) but we somehow come to a different conclusion.

I don't think he read the studies because I intentionally posted a study from Science that was the same study on a pubmed link I posted. But, he never noticed and it appears he thought that since the study was in Science it was somehow suspect. The conclusion of the study: face masks were found to effectively limit probability of COVID-19 transmission.

I could post dozens more but you are right, it is probably pointless.

halloween 65 · 08-24-2021, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda.

Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure.

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

Nothing is ever 100%. Just look no farther than all the lawsuits going on with prescribed medicine that were FDA approved that kill people or give them a long slow death with agonizing side affects. I personally don't put to much stock in the medical outlook or their journals of medicine from wherever or to many of their remedies of yesteryear or today, it might be bad to in the long run. Example - never could cure a common cold,the flu, cancer( how many decades have they been trying while people are dying every hour of the day, 7 days a week 24 hrs, a day), parkinsons, the list is quite extensive and then shazam, they got the ticket to covid. Their good, he!! their great!! Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Although sometimes they do get it right on occasion every now and then but with covid they still have a long way to go just like the flu that has been around way before my time and still no cure, wow!!

08-22-2021, 12:34 PM	#1
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 Dude.... If it protects me then it protects them.But let me get this through to that thick skull of yours, only if it's a properly rated mask does it work. That is the point. I think you would try to convince a door knob it can only be turned one way. Your pretty close to the drama queen aspect aren't you? You like to THINK you are right but really don't have a clue about certain things in the least and WILL keep on and on and on and on about it. Really sad, I would feel sorry for you and people like you but I don't and want, ever. So keep on spewing out what you think you know, whether you really know it or not. I'm getting a kick out of it, how about you? This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.
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08-22-2021, 09:12 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org. The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit. jnormand and jeanpierre like this.

08-23-2021, 05:41 PM	#3
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit. Sure. Here's a few: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439
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08-24-2021, 07:50 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster Sure. Here's a few: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2776536 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431650/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34016743/ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6549/1439 My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it. jeanpierre likes this.

08-24-2021, 04:40 PM	#5
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by halloween 65 My question to you is did you read this? The 4th from sciencemag in particular. I like what it said about an indoor environment. And you still say wearing a mask helps? Maybe we need to all wear the hazmat suits like your article says is the ONLY way it could be contained. Pretty good article. The others said little to nothing other than about multi layer mask( which are basically ineffective) and do not much better than a single(pretty little mask) at containing the spread of anything. Maybe we should wrap our heads with bubble wrap so we can't breath instead of breathing without these mask and let it run it couse like it is going to do anyway. MASKS DON"T HELP DUDE, face it. They do little to nothing against the spread of this. YOUR articles even prove it. I don't think you read these articles correctly.
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08-24-2021, 05:22 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster I don't think you read these articles correctly. Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others.

08-24-2021, 07:15 PM	#7
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others. I hear you and you are probably correct. I mean every study from every credible medical organization in America says differently (the same doctors we all trust to do heart surgery, brain surgery, etc.) but we somehow come to a different conclusion. I don't think he read the studies because I intentionally posted a study from Science that was the same study on a pubmed link I posted. But, he never noticed and it appears he thought that since the study was in Science it was somehow suspect. The conclusion of the study: face masks were found to effectively limit probability of COVID-19 transmission. I could post dozens more but you are right, it is probably pointless.
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08-24-2021, 10:38 PM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only those parts that could be twisted to support his agenda. Give up, Jay. It isn't worth it with these people. Their "individual freedom" outweighs any concern for others. Now that's the pot calling the kettle black for sure. iceshack149 and Boston Saint like this.

08-22-2021, 09:42 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org. Nothing is ever 100%. Just look no farther than all the lawsuits going on with prescribed medicine that were FDA approved that kill people or give them a long slow death with agonizing side affects. I personally don't put to much stock in the medical outlook or their journals of medicine from wherever or to many of their remedies of yesteryear or today, it might be bad to in the long run. Example - never could cure a common cold,the flu, cancer( how many decades have they been trying while people are dying every hour of the day, 7 days a week 24 hrs, a day), parkinsons, the list is quite extensive and then shazam, they got the ticket to covid. Their good, he!! their great!! Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Although sometimes they do get it right on occasion every now and then but with covid they still have a long way to go just like the flu that has been around way before my time and still no cure, wow!! jnormand and jeanpierre like this.