Saints Are Offering Refunds

Flipx99 · 08-22-2021, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The hospital released me even though I had pneumonia and a lung infection to make room for Covid patients. I did not want to go home and do my own infusions but I had no choice. Every time a Covid patient is hospitalized there is less room for other major ailments. Just get vaccinated and don't worry that it is an infringement on personal freedumbs.

You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill.

Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up.

I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media.

Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time.

AsylumGuido · 08-22-2021, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Flipx99

You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill.

Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up.

I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media.

Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time.

Your sympathy for a fellow forum member is commendable ... NOT!

Unbelievable. But then again, considering your history ...

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit.

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by JayFoster

This is incorrect.

Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org.

Nothing is ever 100%. Just look no farther than all the lawsuits going on with prescribed medicine that were FDA approved that kill people or give them a long slow death with agonizing side affects. I personally don't put to much stock in the medical outlook or their journals of medicine from wherever or to many of their remedies of yesteryear or today, it might be bad to in the long run. Example - never could cure a common cold,the flu, cancer( how many decades have they been trying while people are dying every hour of the day, 7 days a week 24 hrs, a day), parkinsons, the list is quite extensive and then shazam, they got the ticket to covid. Their good, he!! their great!! Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Although sometimes they do get it right on occasion every now and then but with covid they still have a long way to go just like the flu that has been around way before my time and still no cure, wow!!

halloween 65 · 08-22-2021, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Flipx99

You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill.

Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up.

I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media.

Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time.

I had to get mine to work, really not to much of a choice their giving now. Starve or put a needle in your arm. Really sad!! I will refuse the" mark of the beast" when our government tries to shove it down our throats telling us how good it will be if these so called vaccines don't kill me first.

Flipx99 · 08-23-2021, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Your sympathy for a fellow forum member is commendable ... NOT!

Unbelievable. But then again, considering your history ...

I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't actually believe he should have been booted from the hospital for his past decisions. Instead, I was making a point that people should not be denied health services based on some social credit score, ala the CCP.

Obvious unless of course the reader isn't that bright (possibly you) or is posting in bad faith (definitely you).

AsylumGuido · 08-23-2021, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Flipx99

I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't actually believe he should have been booted from the hospital for his past decisions. Instead, I was making a point that people should not be denied health services based on some social credit score, ala the CCP.

Obvious unless of course the reader isn't that bright (possibly you) or is posting in bad faith (definitely you).

Absolutely bad faith.

SmashMouth · 08-23-2021, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The hospital released me even though I had pneumonia and a lung infection to make room for Covid patients. I did not want to go home and do my own infusions but I had no choice. Every time a Covid patient is hospitalized there is less room for other major ailments. Just get vaccinated and don't worry that it is an infringement on personal freedumbs.

The mighty hospital Covid compensation model at work here. You probably were better off not being in the midst of other Covid patients. Foreverfan had double pneumonia and got Covid, when they didn't know what the hell they were doing.

If you have antibodies, that should be good enough. Can't show that on a Vax card. Some folks can't get vaxxed with their medical situations. If you just got over Covid, you cannot get vaxxed for at least three months.

Rugby Saint II · 08-23-2021, 01:21 PM

I read something yesterday that said we should prioritize Covid patients needing to be hospitalized by whether they have had the shot or not. This made me think about it for quite sometime. If people don't believe in science before they get sick then why would getting Covid change their mind?

Boston Saint · 08-23-2021, 01:23 PM

Glad I found a 40 foot pole from a guy online.

08-22-2021, 07:40 PM	#71
Flipx99 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 153	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The hospital released me even though I had pneumonia and a lung infection to make room for Covid patients. I did not want to go home and do my own infusions but I had no choice. Every time a Covid patient is hospitalized there is less room for other major ailments. Just get vaccinated and don't worry that it is an infringement on personal freedumbs. You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill. Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up. I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media. Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time. SmashMouth, jeanpierre and halloween 65 like this.
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08-22-2021, 09:07 PM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by Flipx99 You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill. Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up. I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media. Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time. Your sympathy for a fellow forum member is commendable ... NOT! Unbelievable. But then again, considering your history ...

08-22-2021, 09:12 PM	#73
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org. The 2021 date said nothing about covid next closest date was 2017 and covid didn't exist. Be more specific. I do read quite a bit. jnormand and jeanpierre like this.

08-22-2021, 09:42 PM	#74
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by JayFoster This is incorrect. Go read the studies at JAMA, New England Journal of Medicine, NIH, pubmed.org. Nothing is ever 100%. Just look no farther than all the lawsuits going on with prescribed medicine that were FDA approved that kill people or give them a long slow death with agonizing side affects. I personally don't put to much stock in the medical outlook or their journals of medicine from wherever or to many of their remedies of yesteryear or today, it might be bad to in the long run. Example - never could cure a common cold,the flu, cancer( how many decades have they been trying while people are dying every hour of the day, 7 days a week 24 hrs, a day), parkinsons, the list is quite extensive and then shazam, they got the ticket to covid. Their good, he!! their great!! Lots of snake oil salesmen out there. Although sometimes they do get it right on occasion every now and then but with covid they still have a long way to go just like the flu that has been around way before my time and still no cure, wow!! jnormand and jeanpierre like this.

08-22-2021, 09:57 PM	#75
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by Flipx99 You probably deserved to get kicked out of the hospital because you made poor health decisions at some point that increased your risk of becoming seriously ill. Seriously brother, your take on turning away people because they decided not to take the vaccine is really screwed up. I took the vaccine as soon as I could, but I respect the right of others to make their own decisions about their healthcare. There are legitimate reasons not to take the vaccine. I also understand how someone would not trust the pharmaceutical companies, the government or the media. Although I made a personal decision to take the vax, I question the wisdom of a position that the entire population needs to take these new vaccines all at one time. If it turns out that these vaccines have long term negative health implications then we are going to be screwed. And let's not pretend to know things that we could not possibly know at this time. I had to get mine to work, really not to much of a choice their giving now. Starve or put a needle in your arm. Really sad!! I will refuse the" mark of the beast" when our government tries to shove it down our throats telling us how good it will be if these so called vaccines don't kill me first. jnormand likes this.

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08-23-2021, 09:36 AM	#76
Flipx99 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 153	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Your sympathy for a fellow forum member is commendable ... NOT! Unbelievable. But then again, considering your history ... I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't actually believe he should have been booted from the hospital for his past decisions. Instead, I was making a point that people should not be denied health services based on some social credit score, ala the CCP. Obvious unless of course the reader isn't that bright (possibly you) or is posting in bad faith (definitely you). jeanpierre likes this.
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08-23-2021, 10:03 AM	#77
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by Flipx99 I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't actually believe he should have been booted from the hospital for his past decisions. Instead, I was making a point that people should not be denied health services based on some social credit score, ala the CCP. Obvious unless of course the reader isn't that bright (possibly you) or is posting in bad faith (definitely you). Absolutely bad faith.

08-23-2021, 10:12 AM	#78
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The hospital released me even though I had pneumonia and a lung infection to make room for Covid patients. I did not want to go home and do my own infusions but I had no choice. Every time a Covid patient is hospitalized there is less room for other major ailments. Just get vaccinated and don't worry that it is an infringement on personal freedumbs. The mighty hospital Covid compensation model at work here. You probably were better off not being in the midst of other Covid patients. Foreverfan had double pneumonia and got Covid, when they didn't know what the hell they were doing. If you have antibodies, that should be good enough. Can't show that on a Vax card. Some folks can't get vaxxed with their medical situations. If you just got over Covid, you cannot get vaxxed for at least three months. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds I read something yesterday that said we should prioritize Covid patients needing to be hospitalized by whether they have had the shot or not. This made me think about it for quite sometime. If people don't believe in science before they get sick then why would getting Covid change their mind?
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08-23-2021, 01:23 PM	#80
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,868	Re: Saints Are Offering Refunds Glad I found a 40 foot pole from a guy online. Rugby Saint II likes this.