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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Such hyperbole! Limiting gatherings in a time of emergency is NOT taking away rights. No more so than a city government mandating a curfew to curtail looting after a hurricane or other disaster. You, and others, ...

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Old 08-31-2021, 10:46 AM   #1
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Such hyperbole!

Limiting gatherings in a time of emergency is NOT taking away rights. No more so than a city government mandating a curfew to curtail looting after a hurricane or other disaster. You, and others, are construing inconveniences as restricting rights. Do you have a right to drive a vehicle? What if you have no driver's license? What if your car can't pass inspection? What if your road is blocked because of some damage or wreck ahead? Things get in the way at times. It isn't your right being revoked.

Yes, it was inconvenient that we had our in person church services interrupted. But we adjusted and were up and going the next week with online services. Restaurant owners adjusted when in house dining was interrupted and started providing pickup and delivery services.

A temporary hinderance for reason is not restricting one's rights. It is an excuse, as weak as it may be, for a minority of people to rattle their chains claiming government control. You have had no rights violated. You have just had your feelings hurt.
“Such hyperbole!“
LMFAO. This from the guy who compared getting a haircut and purchasing shoes for your child to forcing vaccinations and forced mask wearing! Priceless.

Here is the crux of our disagreement. You are willing to give the government any unquestioned power it deems it needs without question and make excuses for it. I am not.
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:04 AM   #2
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“Such hyperbole!“
LMFAO. This from the guy who compared getting a haircut and purchasing shoes for your child to forcing vaccinations and forced mask wearing! Priceless.

Here is the crux of our disagreement. You are willing to give the government any unquestioned power it deems it needs without question and make excuses for it. I am not.
What is this "government" that you keep speaking of? They are all elected officials. We have a constitutional republic. We have the right to elect our representation.

And speaking of hyperbole, I never "compared getting a haircut and purchasing shoes for your child to forcing vaccinations and forced mask wearing". LOL!

Speaking of which, do you agree that anyone who wants a vaccination has the right?
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:06 AM   #3
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What is this "government" that you keep speaking of? They are all elected officials. We have a constitutional republic. We have the right to elect our representation.

And speaking of hyperbole, I never "compared getting a haircut and purchasing shoes for your child to forcing vaccinations and forced mask wearing". LOL!

Speaking of which, do you agree that anyone who wants a vaccination has the right?
Who elected the CDC and by what authority did they institute a moratorium on property owners evicting tenants who did not pay their rent?

Biden stood up and admitted that the moratorium was "probably" unconstitutional but they did it anyway.

GUIDO, why don't you just come out and admit that your philosophy is, "govern me harder, daddy?"
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Who elected the CDC and by what authority did they institute a moratorium on property owners evicting tenants who did not pay their rent?

Biden stood up and admitted that the moratorium was "probably" unconstitutional but they did it anyway.

GUIDO, why don't you just come out and admit that your philosophy is, "govern me harder, daddy?"
Because it isn't. I am a lifelong Republican. I am fiscally conservative, but socially moderate. The radical right has all but destroyed the Republican party. I blame them for creating an environment where a moron like Biden can be elected by electing a moron like Trump. That said, I voted for Trump twice myself because of the alternatives.
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Because it isn't. I am a lifelong Republican. I am fiscally conservative, but socially moderate. The radical right has all but destroyed the Republican party. I blame them for creating an environment where a moron like Biden can be elected by electing a moron like Trump. That said, I voted for Trump twice myself because of the alternatives.
I'm an Independent. Both parties have serious flaws! I was raised in a Democratic home but gave that up decades ago. One party wants to give everything away without any effort from the recipient to earn it and the other will only give to rich people and corporations.
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I'm an Independent. Both parties have serious flaws! I was raised in a Democratic home but gave that up decades ago. One party wants to give everything away without any effort from the recipient to earn it and the other will only give to rich people and corporations.
My wife became an Independent, as well. I may end up doing the same if things don't change.
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:09 PM   #7
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Because it isn't. I am a lifelong Republican. I am fiscally conservative, but socially moderate. The radical right has all but destroyed the Republican party. I blame them for creating an environment where a moron like Biden can be elected by electing a moron like Trump. That said, I voted for Trump twice myself because of the alternatives.
Pretty funny that you say that the "radical right" elected Trump and then you concede that you voted for him twice. Maybe you meant to blame this "radical right" on nominating Ttump, IDK. You're hardly alone in voting for Trump for lack of a better choice.

Personally, I looked at what Trump was accomplishing rather than focusing on the language he used.

Trump didn't cause Biden to be elected. The Democratic machine stepped in to get that idiot nominated in the first place. There is no way Biden won that election but for the massive fraud that took place.
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Pretty funny that you say that the "radical right" elected Trump and then you concede that you voted for him twice. Maybe you meant to blame this "radical right" on nominating Ttump, IDK. You're hardly alone in voting for Trump for lack of a better choice.

Personally, I looked at what Trump was accomplishing rather than focusing on the language he used.

Trump didn't cause Biden to be elected. The Democratic machine stepped in to get that idiot nominated in the first place. There is no way Biden won that election but for the massive fraud that took place.
Yes, I meant the radical right nominating Trump. And Biden won fair and square. If Trump wasn't such an idiot he could have won easily.
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Old 09-02-2021, 10:14 AM   #9
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Yes, I meant the radical right nominating Trump. And Biden won fair and square. If Trump wasn't such an idiot he could have won easily.
Radical right? WTF does that even mean? A constituency that supported a candidate not based on large government and its continued expensive bureaucracy is Radical?!!! I guess they were deplorable in your mind, huh Guido?
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[QUOTE=Flipx99;927282]Pretty funny that you say that the "radical right" elected Trump and then you concede that you voted for him twice. Maybe you meant to blame this "radical right" on nominating Ttump, IDK. You're hardly alone in voting for Trump for lack of a better choice.

Personally, I looked at whaThere is no way Biden won that election but for the massive fraud that took place.[/QUOTEt Trump was accomplishing rather than focusing on the language he used.

Trump didn't cause Biden to be elected. The Democratic machine stepped in to get that idiot nominated in the first place.

Seriously? There has only been baseless accusations and not one of them has won in court.
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