Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I disagree. You telling other people what to let go and what to think is what’s old.

You need to let that go. Move on.

ChrisXVI · 09-19-2021, 05:46 PM

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jeanpierre · 09-19-2021, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center.

Then we need to move Ruiz, because his ceiling at RG is not very impressive; he's a center; but I agree Erik McCoy is the best Center on the roster...

And when the opportunity affords itself next season, that Left Side will likely be a lot different...

Cruize · 09-19-2021, 06:06 PM

-Too much to overcome.
-Panthers defense is for real.
-Saints OLine was absolutely
whipped.
-Gardner-Johnson is a difference maker.
-Don't watch the tape. Block it out. Move on

jeanpierre · 09-19-2021, 06:12 PM

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ChrisXVI · 09-19-2021, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...12404653363205

Brees was so great that he could make a household name out of undrafted WR’s. That’s a very rare thing though and we simply can’t keep going that route in the post-Brees era. Callaway should be a tertiary option.

I’m really optimistic about the offense when we can roll out MT, Stills and Callaway. Until then… it’s going to be a struggle.

K Major · 09-19-2021, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...12404653363205

That’s a problem.

neugey · 09-19-2021, 06:25 PM

Constructive criticism:
- Drives me nuts when we start in pistol-like formation and shift to a normal shotgun. I think we could do more damage with the pistol similar to Chiefs and Cardinals.
- The pitch to Kamara at the goal line was much too risky and we saw the huge negative result. Unless you are playing a defense that is absolutely gassed, I don't think that play works at the goalline in the NFL. Stuff the middle or call another play.
- Play action on first down seemed kind of predictable and Panthers got us for huge losses on it.
- I don't think we called a screen all game. Could've used a few to keep Winston from getting assaulted.
- Needed to send more pressure vs Darnold earlier in the game. I know it's risky calling it with McCaffery, but we let Darnold get way too much rhythm.
- Refs need to chill with the roughing-the-passer flag. Terrible ones called against both teams today.

The Dude · 09-19-2021, 06:46 PM

The defense played well enough to win in spite of everything until the end. We need offensive weapons period.

claus808 · 09-19-2021, 06:48 PM

Who Dat!!!! First and foremost. We had so many out for covid, I'm trying to not be one of those fans but it is what it is. I personally want to see Jameis launch it. Show what receivers can handle it and who can't. Hard to do with a shotty line like today. He looked scared, out of place. Huge step back today, but in reality, it played out the way it should of with our outages. We will get better, every week. Panties took advantage of our disadvantages... We are better than them, you all know this.

09-19-2021, 05:45 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by Boston Saint I disagree. You telling other people what to let go and what to think is what’s old. You need to let that go. Move on.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center. Then we need to move Ruiz, because his ceiling at RG is not very impressive; he's a center; but I agree Erik McCoy is the best Center on the roster... And when the opportunity affords itself next season, that Left Side will likely be a lot different...

09-19-2021, 06:06 PM	#24
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina -Too much to overcome. -Panthers defense is for real. -Saints OLine was absolutely whipped. -Gardner-Johnson is a difference maker. -Don't watch the tape. Block it out. Move on neugey and Rsanders24 like this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...12404653363205 Brees was so great that he could make a household name out of undrafted WR’s. That’s a very rare thing though and we simply can’t keep going that route in the post-Brees era. Callaway should be a tertiary option. I’m really optimistic about the offense when we can roll out MT, Stills and Callaway. Until then… it’s going to be a struggle. jnormand likes this.

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09-19-2021, 06:25 PM	#28
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Constructive criticism: - Drives me nuts when we start in pistol-like formation and shift to a normal shotgun. I think we could do more damage with the pistol similar to Chiefs and Cardinals. - The pitch to Kamara at the goal line was much too risky and we saw the huge negative result. Unless you are playing a defense that is absolutely gassed, I don't think that play works at the goalline in the NFL. Stuff the middle or call another play. - Play action on first down seemed kind of predictable and Panthers got us for huge losses on it. - I don't think we called a screen all game. Could've used a few to keep Winston from getting assaulted. - Needed to send more pressure vs Darnold earlier in the game. I know it's risky calling it with McCaffery, but we let Darnold get way too much rhythm. - Refs need to chill with the roughing-the-passer flag. Terrible ones called against both teams today. Boston Saint likes this.

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claus808 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Who Dat!!!! First and foremost. We had so many out for covid, I'm trying to not be one of those fans but it is what it is. I personally want to see Jameis launch it. Show what receivers can handle it and who can't. Hard to do with a shotty line like today. He looked scared, out of place. Huge step back today, but in reality, it played out the way it should of with our outages. We will get better, every week. Panties took advantage of our disadvantages... We are better than them, you all know this. Rell&Gold, Thirty3 and Boston Saint like this.