Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina

SmashMouth · 09-19-2021, 03:25 PM

Team loss all the way around. Striking contrast from the first outing. Guess we're not as deep as SP thinks. Officials had their say as well.

It's going to be a bumpy ride, buttercups. Hang on as the team transitions!

K Major · 09-19-2021, 03:40 PM

When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center.

SmashMouth · 09-19-2021, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center.

No excuses for the OL... Jameis practiced all summer with Ruiz at center. Peat's been curtailing his Popeyes outings. They just didn't show up prepared.

K Major · 09-19-2021, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

No excuses for the OL... Jameis practiced all summer with Ruiz at center. Peat's been curtailing his Popeyes outings. They just didn't show up prepared.

Fair enough.

We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch.

Where is Trautman?

dizzle88 · 09-19-2021, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Where is Trautman?

I think Trautman honestly was just a guy that Brees made look serviceable.

He had a good TD catch vs Bucs, in that drubbing that turned out to mean absolutely nothing.

This year all I've seen is him drop passes and miss blocks. The one today got Jameis buried.

darksoul35 · 09-19-2021, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Fair enough.

We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch.

Where is Trautman?

Out there missing blocking assignments. I dont see much more Winston can do with the amount of time he had. On the 4th down sack he did hold too long.

saintfan · 09-19-2021, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Fair enough.

We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch.

Where is Trautman?

Yep. Too many times nobody open. Jameis will take his fair share of heat but for the love of Pete where was he supposed to throw it?

jeanpierre · 09-19-2021, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center.

Then we need to move Ruiz, because his ceiling at RG is not very impressive; he's a center; but I agree Erik McCoy is the best Center on the roster...

And when the opportunity affords itself next season, that Left Side will likely be a lot different...

dizzle88 · 09-19-2021, 03:41 PM

Whilst I think Winston is undoubtedly better than Hill at QB, I am skeptical that he has what it takes to be the QB beyond this year.

I'm not going to jump on him straight away, because Brees had some really bad games too. But in a blowout loss, to throw for 111 yards and 50% completion percentage, that ain't going to get it done.

I'll reserve further judgment because we had a lot going against us this week anyway, but I saw shades of 30 INT Jameis still. Hope I'm wrong.

darksoul35 · 09-19-2021, 03:42 PM

We had almost our whole defensive backfield out though. Im worried about the offense but i thought we where going to take a loss when I realized how many people we where missing. we Have to have better protection on the Oline too. Having our coaches present wouldnt hurt.

09-19-2021, 03:25 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Team loss all the way around. Striking contrast from the first outing. Guess we're not as deep as SP thinks. Officials had their say as well. It's going to be a bumpy ride, buttercups. Hang on as the team transitions! saintfan, jnormand, jeanpierre and 2 others like this.

09-19-2021, 03:40 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center. jeanpierre likes this.

09-19-2021, 03:51 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center. No excuses for the OL... Jameis practiced all summer with Ruiz at center. Peat's been curtailing his Popeyes outings. They just didn't show up prepared. Rsanders24, claus808 and Rell&Gold like this.

09-19-2021, 03:54 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by SmashMouth No excuses for the OL... Jameis practiced all summer with Ruiz at center. Peat's been curtailing his Popeyes outings. They just didn't show up prepared. Fair enough. We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch. Where is Trautman? saintfan, Rsanders24, FinSaint and 2 others like this.

09-19-2021, 03:57 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major Where is Trautman? I think Trautman honestly was just a guy that Brees made look serviceable. He had a good TD catch vs Bucs, in that drubbing that turned out to mean absolutely nothing. This year all I've seen is him drop passes and miss blocks. The one today got Jameis buried. RailBoss, leilung and darksoul35 like this.

09-19-2021, 04:23 PM	#6
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major Fair enough. We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch. Where is Trautman? Out there missing blocking assignments. I dont see much more Winston can do with the amount of time he had. On the 4th down sack he did hold too long.
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09-19-2021, 06:03 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major Fair enough. We need RECEIVERS. Guys who can create separation. Second week in a row Callaway was bottled up and we had no other option. I’m hopeful Kenny and/or Kevin White play more down the stretch. Where is Trautman? Yep. Too many times nobody open. Jameis will take his fair share of heat but for the love of Pete where was he supposed to throw it? Rsanders24, stickman, K Major and 1 others like this.

09-19-2021, 05:05 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by K Major When Erik Mckoy is 100 again, he goes back to center. Then we need to move Ruiz, because his ceiling at RG is not very impressive; he's a center; but I agree Erik McCoy is the best Center on the roster... And when the opportunity affords itself next season, that Left Side will likely be a lot different...

09-19-2021, 03:41 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Whilst I think Winston is undoubtedly better than Hill at QB, I am skeptical that he has what it takes to be the QB beyond this year. I'm not going to jump on him straight away, because Brees had some really bad games too. But in a blowout loss, to throw for 111 yards and 50% completion percentage, that ain't going to get it done. I'll reserve further judgment because we had a lot going against us this week anyway, but I saw shades of 30 INT Jameis still. Hope I'm wrong.

09-19-2021, 03:42 PM	#10
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina We had almost our whole defensive backfield out though. Im worried about the offense but i thought we where going to take a loss when I realized how many people we where missing. we Have to have better protection on the Oline too. Having our coaches present wouldnt hurt. Boston Saint likes this.
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