Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina

SaintGnome · 09-20-2021, 03:59 PM

I was surprised it took so long to get Taysom involved, and that he wasn't involved more. Not so much as a QB but some more gadgety ways. As a matter of fact I'm surprised Sean didn't inject some razzle dazzle plays in the second half when Jamius obviously wasn't getting it done, an end arounds, flee flicker, something.

jeanpierre · 09-20-2021, 04:17 PM

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turbo_dog · 09-20-2021, 05:25 PM

I'm late because I was traveling yesterday. I had to listen to the game on siriusXM. But nice to have that option, as WWL doesn't reach Georgia. I didn't understand why SP kept trying the same crap that wasn't working on offense. Seems like once it was clear that normal three step drop or handoff wasn't working, he should have thrown Taysom in there with some run/pass option to loosen up the defense.

Rsanders24 · 09-20-2021, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I'm late because I was traveling yesterday. I had to listen to the game on siriusXM. But nice to have that option, as WWL doesn't reach Georgia. I didn't understand why SP kept trying the same crap that wasn't working on offense. Seems like once it was clear that normal three step drop or handoff wasn't working, he should have thrown Taysom in there with some run/pass option to loosen up the defense.

Wouldn’t have mattered who was at QB. The play of offense line was offensive. Even the few plays Hill contributed with weren’t great. We couldn’t run and we couldn’t pass.

Defense did okay with having so many key starters out but they could have played a lot better as well.

I think being on the road for over three weeks is also starting to get to them.

jeanpierre · 09-20-2021, 07:36 PM

Repeat

Winston's own words -

“I have to take responsibility for communicating with the offensive line...Got to get us in better protections. Just communicate better out there.”

Taysom Hill had 2 RuAtt for 9 RuYds and 7 RuYds, so, if anything, Taysom should have gotten more touches earlier, and often...

jeanpierre · 09-20-2021, 08:34 PM

Dan Campbell has Detroit up by a FG at the half at Green Bay; more schadenfreude of seeing Rodgers start 0-2, please...

jeanpierre · 09-20-2021, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Dan Campbell has Detroit up by a FG at the half at Green Bay; more schadenfreude of seeing Rodgers start 0-2, please...

Well, he'll need a few seasons to rebuild a sh*tty roster; he's got Anzalone getting smoked by Rodgers as his MLB, and both starting CBs are out vs Rodgers...

But they gave it a good effort till they ran out of troops...

jeanpierre · 09-20-2021, 09:28 PM

For those that follow...

PFF Grades for Saints, Week 2

Top 5, Offense

C Cesar Ruiz – 70.9

QB Taysom Hill – 69.8

WR Lil’Jordan Humphrey – 69.5

RG Calvin Throckmorton – 69.3

WR Chris Hogan – 64.1

Bottom 5, Offense

QB Jameis Winston – 40.7

RB Alvin Kamara – 43.8

LG Andrus Peat – 44.2

WR Marquez Callaway – 45.1

FB Garrett Griffin – 48.6

Top 5, Defense

S Marcus Williams – 76.3

LB Demario Davis – 75.4

CB Desmond Trufant – 74.2

DE Cameron Jordan – 74.1

DE Payton Turner – 72.1

Bottom 5, Defense

LB Andrew Dowell – 44.5

DT Malcolm Roach – 43.1

DE Jalyn Holmes – 42.7

CB Paulson Adebo – 40.6

LB Zack Baun – 29.0

RailBoss · 09-20-2021, 10:38 PM

Detroit is a tough City to coach in, Dan has to mop up the mess left to him by Patricia.
But I to was hoping that they would knock the Arrogant One further off his perch..

Rugby Saint II · 09-21-2021, 11:41 AM

We have another road trip this weekend but at least it's not a home game played in New England. The Saints should be sleeping in their own beds next week and hopefully recharge their woefully dead batteries and play like they are rejuvenated. Being in a full capacity Dome should give us an additional boost and give us the Dome field advantage everyone in the NFL knows about.

09-20-2021, 03:59 PM	#1
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina I was surprised it took so long to get Taysom involved, and that he wasn't involved more. Not so much as a QB but some more gadgety ways. As a matter of fact I'm surprised Sean didn't inject some razzle dazzle plays in the second half when Jamius obviously wasn't getting it done, an end arounds, flee flicker, something. jeanpierre likes this.

09-20-2021, 04:17 PM	#2
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09-20-2021, 05:25 PM	#3
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,649	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina I'm late because I was traveling yesterday. I had to listen to the game on siriusXM. But nice to have that option, as WWL doesn't reach Georgia. I didn't understand why SP kept trying the same crap that wasn't working on offense. Seems like once it was clear that normal three step drop or handoff wasn't working, he should have thrown Taysom in there with some run/pass option to loosen up the defense. jnormand, neugey and SaintGnome like this.

09-20-2021, 05:50 PM	#4
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by turbo_dog I'm late because I was traveling yesterday. I had to listen to the game on siriusXM. But nice to have that option, as WWL doesn't reach Georgia. I didn't understand why SP kept trying the same crap that wasn't working on offense. Seems like once it was clear that normal three step drop or handoff wasn't working, he should have thrown Taysom in there with some run/pass option to loosen up the defense. Wouldn’t have mattered who was at QB. The play of offense line was offensive. Even the few plays Hill contributed with weren’t great. We couldn’t run and we couldn’t pass. Defense did okay with having so many key starters out but they could have played a lot better as well. I think being on the road for over three weeks is also starting to get to them. K Major and Boston Saint like this.

09-20-2021, 07:36 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Repeat Winston's own words - “I have to take responsibility for communicating with the offensive line...Got to get us in better protections. Just communicate better out there.” Taysom Hill had 2 RuAtt for 9 RuYds and 7 RuYds, so, if anything, Taysom should have gotten more touches earlier, and often... jnormand likes this.

09-20-2021, 08:34 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Dan Campbell has Detroit up by a FG at the half at Green Bay; more schadenfreude of seeing Rodgers start 0-2, please...

09-20-2021, 09:33 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by jeanpierre Dan Campbell has Detroit up by a FG at the half at Green Bay; more schadenfreude of seeing Rodgers start 0-2, please... Well, he'll need a few seasons to rebuild a sh*tty roster; he's got Anzalone getting smoked by Rodgers as his MLB, and both starting CBs are out vs Rodgers... But they gave it a good effort till they ran out of troops...

09-20-2021, 09:28 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina For those that follow... PFF Grades for Saints, Week 2 Top 5, Offense C Cesar Ruiz – 70.9 QB Taysom Hill – 69.8 WR Lil’Jordan Humphrey – 69.5 RG Calvin Throckmorton – 69.3 WR Chris Hogan – 64.1 Bottom 5, Offense QB Jameis Winston – 40.7 RB Alvin Kamara – 43.8 LG Andrus Peat – 44.2 WR Marquez Callaway – 45.1 FB Garrett Griffin – 48.6 Top 5, Defense S Marcus Williams – 76.3 LB Demario Davis – 75.4 CB Desmond Trufant – 74.2 DE Cameron Jordan – 74.1 DE Payton Turner – 72.1 Bottom 5, Defense LB Andrew Dowell – 44.5 DT Malcolm Roach – 43.1 DE Jalyn Holmes – 42.7 CB Paulson Adebo – 40.6 LB Zack Baun – 29.0 Rugby Saint II likes this.
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09-20-2021, 10:38 PM	#9
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Detroit is a tough City to coach in, Dan has to mop up the mess left to him by Patricia. But I to was hoping that they would knock the Arrogant One further off his perch.. jeanpierre likes this.

09-21-2021, 11:41 AM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina We have another road trip this weekend but at least it's not a home game played in New England. The Saints should be sleeping in their own beds next week and hopefully recharge their woefully dead batteries and play like they are rejuvenated. Being in a full capacity Dome should give us an additional boost and give us the Dome field advantage everyone in the NFL knows about. jeanpierre likes this.