Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots

jnormand · 09-28-2021, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔

After week 1, there was some media saying he was gonna be in the talk of MVP. Then that went away after week 2. Lol. I think right now he's gonna get the extremes from both sides by media.

For me, he's just blah so far. He's not making a lot of mistakes. But I haven't seen anything to make me believe he's gonna have a career year here either. Just my opinion bro.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-28-2021, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔

Not only that Mac Jones was making the same throws Jameis was making and they said Jones was trying to make something out of nothing and he’s a warrior and sh*t like that and Jameis makes the same throw and it’s he needs to do a better job and this that and the other. Turn down your tv and turn up the local radio. The hypocrisy is real, the narrative is real, don’t fall for it people

Boston Saint · 09-28-2021, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

After week 1, there was some media saying he was gonna be in the talk of MVP. Then that went away after week 2. Lol. I think right now he's gonna get the extremes from both sides by media.

For me, he's just blah so far. He's not making a lot of mistakes. But I haven't seen anything to make me believe he's gonna have a career year here either. Just my opinion bro.

On point. He’s not lit it up. Hopefully with Thomas eventually back and a developing Stills in the offense things will open up more. Trautman has t been what was hoped for either.

Rugby Saint II · 09-28-2021, 02:07 PM

I'm still hopeful that Winston can lead this team. He just hasn't looked the part yet. That's OK. We're 2-1 and I'm a patient man considering I'm so impatient.

AsylumGuido · 09-28-2021, 02:49 PM

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K Major · 09-28-2021, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...16607936786432

So Maddy said Ramz had "4 plays of 0 effort" but Underhill and Deuce both agreed that RR was very good.

Not sure what player Maddy was focusing on Sunday

.

Again, Ryan is the least likely player to be concerned with on the O line.

K Major · 09-28-2021, 03:10 PM

And to piggyback on Deuce analysis on Ruiz (rough game, losing leverage), that's two straight games ...

I've asked this question last week but how likely is it we move Austin R to center & slide Ruiz to guard until McCoy is 100? Ruiz is really getting abused when a NT is lined up over him.

Those free rushes are going to get Winston hurt (sack or running) or force him into a bad throw & subsequent turnover.

dizzle88 · 09-28-2021, 03:56 PM

I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_-

Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years.

AsylumGuido · 09-28-2021, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_-

Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years.

Week in week out? They've only played three weeks and he looked great week one in relief of McCoy. In week two the entire team was discombobulated with half the coaching staff missing and defensive holes everywhere. He looked really good all last season. It is a tad early to write him off as a first round failure, don't you think?

Rugby Saint II · 09-28-2021, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_-

Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years.

Cosidering he hasn't had reps at the position I'm fine with giving him some time to grow into the player we hoped for. Before McCoy went down the buzz was about how well he was looking in TC and the preseason.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Boston Saint On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔 After week 1, there was some media saying he was gonna be in the talk of MVP. Then that went away after week 2. Lol. I think right now he's gonna get the extremes from both sides by media. For me, he's just blah so far. He's not making a lot of mistakes. But I haven't seen anything to make me believe he's gonna have a career year here either. Just my opinion bro. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Boston Saint On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔 Not only that Mac Jones was making the same throws Jameis was making and they said Jones was trying to make something out of nothing and he’s a warrior and sh*t like that and Jameis makes the same throw and it’s he needs to do a better job and this that and the other. Turn down your tv and turn up the local radio. The hypocrisy is real, the narrative is real, don’t fall for it people Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

09-28-2021, 12:57 PM	#83
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by jnormand After week 1, there was some media saying he was gonna be in the talk of MVP. Then that went away after week 2. Lol. I think right now he's gonna get the extremes from both sides by media. For me, he's just blah so far. He's not making a lot of mistakes. But I haven't seen anything to make me believe he's gonna have a career year here either. Just my opinion bro. On point. He’s not lit it up. Hopefully with Thomas eventually back and a developing Stills in the offense things will open up more. Trautman has t been what was hoped for either. jnormand likes this.

09-28-2021, 02:07 PM	#84
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots I'm still hopeful that Winston can lead this team. He just hasn't looked the part yet. That's OK. We're 2-1 and I'm a patient man considering I'm so impatient. jnormand, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...16607936786432 So Maddy said Ramz had "4 plays of 0 effort" but Underhill and Deuce both agreed that RR was very good. Not sure what player Maddy was focusing on Sunday . Again, Ryan is the least likely player to be concerned with on the O line.

09-28-2021, 03:10 PM	#87
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots And to piggyback on Deuce analysis on Ruiz (rough game, losing leverage), that's two straight games ... I've asked this question last week but how likely is it we move Austin R to center & slide Ruiz to guard until McCoy is 100? Ruiz is really getting abused when a NT is lined up over him. Those free rushes are going to get Winston hurt (sack or running) or force him into a bad throw & subsequent turnover. jnormand likes this.

09-28-2021, 03:56 PM	#88
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_- Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by dizzle88 I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_- Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years. Week in week out? They've only played three weeks and he looked great week one in relief of McCoy. In week two the entire team was discombobulated with half the coaching staff missing and defensive holes everywhere. He looked really good all last season. It is a tad early to write him off as a first round failure, don't you think? Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-28-2021, 05:17 PM	#90
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by dizzle88 I thought all the talk of camp was how much better Ruiz was -_- Guy is getting abused week in and week out it seems. First Round picks really aren't going well over the last few years. Cosidering he hasn't had reps at the position I'm fine with giving him some time to grow into the player we hoped for. Before McCoy went down the buzz was about how well he was looking in TC and the preseason.