Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots

cmike · 09-27-2021, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Jameis has two INTs so far. That's on pace for 11-12 for the year. That's an improvement, neaux?

Not really upset about the two INT’s, they were more like punts. I remember someone commenting on the 1st INT took a possible 3 of the board. With the way our kicker is playing, it would have given the Panthers better field position.

saintfan · 09-27-2021, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by papz

My only concern right now is when we do need to get in a shoot out to win a football game, can we do it? I'm looking forward to having one of those types of game.

I don't think we can with our current WRs. We have two QBs who can gun sling it. Problem is they got nobody open to throw it to.

K Major · 09-27-2021, 11:00 AM

Agreed ^^. It's hard enough to succeed at this level of football, but even harder when your QB is throwing to a roster full of undrafted WR's.

No one is getting open. One of those is 5'6 special teams ace transitioning to a WR. Play him man/man, then double Kamara who is going to beat you consistently?

It's going to take Jameis a while to gain confidence in this group. Getting players back (MT, McCoy) will help.

Good to see Stills out there ... only one catch but he moved the chains. He'll have more opportunities going forward.

TheOak · 09-27-2021, 11:10 AM

Probably an unpopular opinion but I see that both of our QBs still play like they are in college.

It's fun and exciting to watch but lacks ball security.

SaintGnome · 09-27-2021, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Probably an unpopular opinion but I see that both of our QBs still play like they are in college.

It's fun and exciting to watch but lacks ball security.

I'm not sure I understand this. There were no turnovers in two of our 3 games by the QB. Late in the game last week, when no one was getting open, Winston wasn't getting a decent pocket, and when there was nothing to lose he threw some wild throws and got picks. I've actually been impressed by the restraint JW has showed. I was talking with a Bucs fan while watching the game yesterday that each time he took a sack versus throwing a wild throw that would probably have been a pick my heart grew little (like the Grinch).

This team is built to win by Defense and running game. JW just needs to pass when he HAS to. So far he pretty much has done so. With Thomas and Smith come back (or trade for random WR) the passing game will be better but I don't expect the overall philosophy will change

jeanpierre · 09-27-2021, 12:02 PM

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ChrisXVI · 09-27-2021, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Didn't watch the end of the game. Any truth to reports that Mac Jones was butt hurt and didn't even exhibit good sportmanship and congratulate the winning team's QB as they normally always do on the field ?

No… Apparently Belichick grabbed Mac’s arm and led him off the field and into the locker room.

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Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2021, 12:48 PM

I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way!

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2021, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way!

19-1 Baby!

Lord_Saint83 · 09-27-2021, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way!

I love how this defense imposes their will on offenses. Kinda gives me a woody, been wanting a good defense for years. Now, we got an elite defense and when the offense gets on track. We are gonna roll

09-27-2021, 10:09 AM	#41
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,427	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by SmashMouth Jameis has two INTs so far. That's on pace for 11-12 for the year. That's an improvement, neaux? Not really upset about the two INT’s, they were more like punts. I remember someone commenting on the 1st INT took a possible 3 of the board. With the way our kicker is playing, it would have given the Panthers better field position. SmashMouth, darksoul35, K Major and 1 others like this.

09-27-2021, 10:42 AM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by papz My only concern right now is when we do need to get in a shoot out to win a football game, can we do it? I'm looking forward to having one of those types of game. I don't think we can with our current WRs. We have two QBs who can gun sling it. Problem is they got nobody open to throw it to. K Major likes this.

09-27-2021, 11:00 AM	#43
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Agreed ^^. It's hard enough to succeed at this level of football, but even harder when your QB is throwing to a roster full of undrafted WR's. No one is getting open. One of those is 5'6 special teams ace transitioning to a WR. Play him man/man, then double Kamara who is going to beat you consistently? It's going to take Jameis a while to gain confidence in this group. Getting players back (MT, McCoy) will help. Good to see Stills out there ... only one catch but he moved the chains. He'll have more opportunities going forward.
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09-27-2021, 11:10 AM	#44
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Probably an unpopular opinion but I see that both of our QBs still play like they are in college. It's fun and exciting to watch but lacks ball security.

09-27-2021, 11:37 AM	#45
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by TheOak Probably an unpopular opinion but I see that both of our QBs still play like they are in college. It's fun and exciting to watch but lacks ball security. I'm not sure I understand this. There were no turnovers in two of our 3 games by the QB. Late in the game last week, when no one was getting open, Winston wasn't getting a decent pocket, and when there was nothing to lose he threw some wild throws and got picks. I've actually been impressed by the restraint JW has showed. I was talking with a Bucs fan while watching the game yesterday that each time he took a sack versus throwing a wild throw that would probably have been a pick my heart grew little (like the Grinch). This team is built to win by Defense and running game. JW just needs to pass when he HAS to. So far he pretty much has done so. With Thomas and Smith come back (or trade for random WR) the passing game will be better but I don't expect the overall philosophy will change darksoul35, K Major and rezburna like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by SmashMouth Didn't watch the end of the game. Any truth to reports that Mac Jones was butt hurt and didn't even exhibit good sportmanship and congratulate the winning team's QB as they normally always do on the field ? No… Apparently Belichick grabbed Mac’s arm and led him off the field and into the locker room. Twitter SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way! AsylumGuido and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,208	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way! 19-1 Baby! Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I knew we were going to be a run first team. Winston is doing a pretty good job of managing the game and our defense is so much fun to watch that I think they can cary an average team to the playoffs and maybe even deeper....like all the way! I love how this defense imposes their will on offenses. Kinda gives me a woody, been wanting a good defense for years. Now, we got an elite defense and when the offense gets on track. We are gonna roll leilung and darksoul35 like this.