Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully

NonieT · 10-01-2021, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also.

He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought.

AsylumGuido · 10-01-2021, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought.

That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over.

NonieT · 10-01-2021, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over.

And that is probably the only reason Arians still has a job and a SB title.

jnormand · 10-01-2021, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also.

Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.

hitta · 10-02-2021, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.

This is exactly why we would be better off with Taysom. I don't think Jameis is bad or anything, I just think he has a very high ceiling. He has a quick mind, he runs well, and throws bullets. I don't think he does a bad job at choosing the right receivers, but he does throw the ball too damn hard. I think this is correctable with in game reps. I just think Winston is missing something that is required to be at the top of the NFL hierarchy.

dizzle88 · 10-02-2021, 06:52 AM

We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.

neugey · 10-02-2021, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field.

To be fair, having a cerebral QB who takes on such a heavy role of leadership is a rare thing. A Brees or Peyton Manning or Brady or Elway just doesn't come along all too often. There are guys like Aikman or Favre that are in the Hall of Fame and great in their own way yet are not this type of QB. Need to evaluate Winston for who he is.

SmashMouth · 10-02-2021, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.

Shall we trade for BDJ Joe Burreaux?

Rugby Saint II · 10-02-2021, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability.

I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think.

I think we need to draft a QB after this season.

We already did. His name is Ian Book!

RailBoss · 10-02-2021, 10:11 PM

We're 2-1 with a bunch of key players out.
Let's take care of the G-Men tomorrow and sink RiverBoat Ron next week and if all goes well we should be 4-1.
Jameis will be alright after all there is no one who can fill Drew's shoes.

10-01-2021, 02:31 PM	#11
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by iceshack149 I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also. He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought.
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10-01-2021, 02:41 PM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by NonieT He didn't have to think in Tampa he was just told to sling it. That doesn't take much thought. That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over.

10-01-2021, 03:10 PM	#13
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's Bruce Arians for you. Brady came in and basically told Arians not to get in his way and took over. And that is probably the only reason Arians still has a job and a SB title. jnormand, AsylumGuido, Lord_Saint83 and 1 others like this.
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10-01-2021, 10:38 PM	#14
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by iceshack149 I've been clear that I'm hopeful that Winston turns out to be a great QB and will give him the benefit of the doubt until I'm either proven right or wrong. He just doesn't seem to be a bright guy. But for what it's worth, apparently Marino wasn't very bright also. Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field. iceshack149, neugey, RailBoss and 2 others like this.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by jnormand Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field. This is exactly why we would be better off with Taysom. I don't think Jameis is bad or anything, I just think he has a very high ceiling. He has a quick mind, he runs well, and throws bullets. I don't think he does a bad job at choosing the right receivers, but he does throw the ball too damn hard. I think this is correctable with in game reps. I just think Winston is missing something that is required to be at the top of the NFL hierarchy. Thirty3 likes this.
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10-02-2021, 06:52 AM	#16
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability. I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think. I think we need to draft a QB after this season. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

10-02-2021, 08:17 AM	#17
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by jnormand Winston is not a "cerebral QB." He's got skill. And he's athletic. I don't want to call him dumb. He's just not the QB that is gonna make the reads like Brees. He probably relies more on instinct. He's obviously not as serious. Brees was all business. Like a coach on the field. To be fair, having a cerebral QB who takes on such a heavy role of leadership is a rare thing. A Brees or Peyton Manning or Brady or Elway just doesn't come along all too often. There are guys like Aikman or Favre that are in the Hall of Fame and great in their own way yet are not this type of QB. Need to evaluate Winston for who he is. jnormand, RailBoss, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by dizzle88 We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability. I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think. I think we need to draft a QB after this season. Shall we trade for BDJ Joe Burreaux?

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully Originally Posted by dizzle88 We certainly were spoilt with Brees. He was able to diagnose pre-snap and if coverage changed, he'd go through 4 reads in about 2 seconds. That's a special ability. I don't think Taysom or Jameis read the game well enough to be a long term starter. If Kamara and the run game get shut down, neither Taysom or Jameis are going to win the game I don't think. I think we need to draft a QB after this season. We already did. His name is Ian Book! neugey likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Jameis Winston has a knee injury but practices fully We're 2-1 with a bunch of key players out. Let's take care of the G-Men tomorrow and sink RiverBoat Ron next week and if all goes well we should be 4-1. Jameis will be alright after all there is no one who can fill Drew's shoes. Boston Saint likes this.