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SaintGnome 10-13-2021 05:45 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
I was just watching the highlights of the WFT game and on most of their big plays he was doubled, and not a lineman and a back, two lineman. He looks fast as ever, just needs more help.

ChrisXVI 10-13-2021 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 931592)
I was just watching the highlights of the WFT game and on most of their big plays he was doubled, and not a lineman and a back, two lineman. He looks fast as ever, just needs more help.
Funny you should mention that… I’m sure a lot of you have seen this graphic recently. It basically shows edge rusher double team rate combined with pass rush win rate.

https://i.ibb.co/vmQhdM3/24291-F14-7...-E03-E2-E6.jpg

Jordan, Granderson and Turner are double teamed more than any DE not named Nick Bosa. Our DT’s are sooo bad that O-Line’s only focus on blocking our edge rushers.

K Major 10-13-2021 06:55 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
Turner is a rookie, learning every week as well as getting doubled (see chart) & Granderson hasn't put it all together yet.

Enter David O (disruption in the middle) Davenport in a few weeks as well as Kwon (Blitzer), things drastically change.

turbo_dog 10-13-2021 08:20 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
He may not be getting sacks, but he's in the backfield with pressure a lot still. And then there's that knocked down pass in the last game.

Boston Saint 10-13-2021 08:25 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
To add to evaluation of Jordan’s play this year is the fact that Trey Hendrickson has 4.5 sacks in 5 games in Cincinnati. Of course Guido is gonna complain and moan when I compare his production to Davenport and the 2 first round picks spent on him. But it would be nice to have that production opposite Cam.

But not having Malcolm Brownnand David O on the field has an impact as well.

K Major 10-13-2021 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 931599)
To add to evaluation of Jordan’s play this year is the fact that Trey Hendrickson has 4.5 sacks in 5 games in Cincinnati.
Trey wasn't an option. Saints could not afford him.

Ramz and Latt were much bigger priorities.

I can't blame the front office brass for letting Trey walk in FA.

Boston Saint 10-13-2021 09:25 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 931600)
Trey wasn't an option. Saints could not afford him.

Ramz and Latt were much bigger priorities.

I can't blame the front office brass for letting Trey walk in FA.
That’s true. Sorry, I was not saying they should/could have kept Trey. Just pointing out that so far up to this point in the season there hasn’t been much help opposite Jordan.

SmashMouth 10-13-2021 10:12 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 931600)
Trey wasn't an option. Saints could not afford him.

Ramz and Latt were much bigger priorities.

I can't blame the front office brass for letting Trey walk in FA.
How is TRex doing anyway...

K Major 10-13-2021 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 931602)
How is TRex doing anyway...
He's balling.

K Major 10-13-2021 10:33 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 931601)
That’s true. Sorry, I was not saying they should/could have kept Trey. Just pointing out that so far up to this point in the season there hasn’t been much help opposite Jordan.
I gotcha Boston Saint :bng: and you're right. Not much help opposite CJ at the moment. I'm excited about the second half of the season though.

Getting back David and hopefully ... hopefully, we get back Davenport. New ball game with those two guys on the defensive front.

I will say Tanoh has performed well thus far in a rotational role.


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