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jeanpierre 10-19-2021 03:20 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 931845)
Cam Jordan is still a top player in the league. Not every good player gets a ton of sacks. Running containment on the edge doesn't really allow the outside run which lowers your sack numbers if you're not in all out rush mode. Our corners run man to man mostly which leaves the edge open to running QB's if there is no containment. Jordan is still the man in my book.
True, but the elephant in the room is Cam's being paid to not only apply pressure, disrupt, but get the QB on the ground - and that salary cap return isn't happening...

Reality is Cam's 32yo, and the decline in his play from elite to very good has a lot to do with his age...

Sean and Mickey need to be paying for current production (Ramczyk, Lattimore), not past production (Cam Jordan)...

dizzle88 10-19-2021 06:59 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
We have a very expensive and inactive D line at the moment with Cam and 2 1sts

jeanpierre 10-19-2021 09:29 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 931868)
We have a very expensive and inactive D line at the moment with Cam and 2 1sts
Well, three 1st(s) and a fifth... ;)

While the Davenport pick was a horrible, horrible reach, you can't say Sean hasn't recognized the importance of investing in a defensive pass rush...

He'll get a free pass from the local, suppressed press (in denial), but letting Hendrickson walk does seem counterproductive, even if he was likely unaffordable...

Rugby Saint II 10-23-2021 05:27 PM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 931853)
True, but the elephant in the room is Cam's being paid to not only apply pressure, disrupt, but get the QB on the ground - and that salary cap return isn't happening...

Reality is Cam's 32yo, and the decline in his play from elite to very good has a lot to do with his age...

Sean and Mickey need to be paying for current production (Ramczyk, Lattimore), not past production (Cam Jordan)...
Maybe he'll be willing to rework his contract. Other players have done that. I wonder if he values the community and team over money? My money says yes.

Boston Saint 10-23-2021 07:32 PM
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The Davenport pick/investment has been a huge disappointment that has crippled the team. Much, MUCH worse pick than Peat. Yet Peat gets all the criticism and Davenport gets a pass. Screw that !

ChrisXVI 10-23-2021 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 932014)
The Davenport pick/investment has been a huge disappointment that has crippled the team. Much, MUCH worse pick than Peat. Yet Peat gets all the criticism and Davenport gets a pass. Screw that !
Davenport is so good though and that’s what makes it hurt even more that he can’t stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then he’s gone.

Boston Saint 10-23-2021 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 932016)
Davenport is so good though and that’s what makes it hurt even more that he can’t stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then he’s gone.
That’s really kind of a myth though Chris. If you compare his per game production stats it’s worse than Trey Hendrickson in just about every category. It’s just not true that he’s worthy of this type of praise.

iceshack149 10-23-2021 10:05 PM
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I'll shoot you guys straight. Talk like this is similar to the last couple of years with Brees. It's not fun for me to discuss but it is inevitable. Cam has been the ultimate player and teammate.

subguy 10-24-2021 08:19 AM
Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 932016)
Davenport is so good though and that’s what makes it hurt even more that he can’t stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then he’s gone.
His play time has been as elusive as Bigfoot...

K Major 11-01-2021 08:57 AM
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Bump ...

Sacks in back-to-back games for Cam. He's only going to improve with a pi**ed off David O & Davenport on the Dline. Tanoh K(2 tackles/1 sack) continues to play well.

Atlanta O-line is struggling right now. Expect these guys to get in on Matty Ice this Sunday.

Dome Sweet Dome.


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