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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Cam Jordan is still a top player in the league. Not every good player gets a ton of sacks. Running containment on the edge doesn't really allow the outside run which lowers your sack ...

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Old 10-19-2021, 04:20 PM   #41
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Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?

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Cam Jordan is still a top player in the league. Not every good player gets a ton of sacks. Running containment on the edge doesn't really allow the outside run which lowers your sack numbers if you're not in all out rush mode. Our corners run man to man mostly which leaves the edge open to running QB's if there is no containment. Jordan is still the man in my book.
True, but the elephant in the room is Cam's being paid to not only apply pressure, disrupt, but get the QB on the ground - and that salary cap return isn't happening...

Reality is Cam's 32yo, and the decline in his play from elite to very good has a lot to do with his age...

Sean and Mickey need to be paying for current production (Ramczyk, Lattimore), not past production (Cam Jordan)...
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:59 PM   #42
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We have a very expensive and inactive D line at the moment with Cam and 2 1sts
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Old 10-19-2021, 10:29 PM   #43
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We have a very expensive and inactive D line at the moment with Cam and 2 1sts
Well, three 1st(s) and a fifth...

While the Davenport pick was a horrible, horrible reach, you can't say Sean hasn't recognized the importance of investing in a defensive pass rush...

He'll get a free pass from the local, suppressed press (in denial), but letting Hendrickson walk does seem counterproductive, even if he was likely unaffordable...


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Old 10-23-2021, 06:27 PM   #44
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Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?

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True, but the elephant in the room is Cam's being paid to not only apply pressure, disrupt, but get the QB on the ground - and that salary cap return isn't happening...

Reality is Cam's 32yo, and the decline in his play from elite to very good has a lot to do with his age...

Sean and Mickey need to be paying for current production (Ramczyk, Lattimore), not past production (Cam Jordan)...
Maybe he'll be willing to rework his contract. Other players have done that. I wonder if he values the community and team over money? My money says yes.
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Old 10-23-2021, 08:32 PM   #45
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The Davenport pick/investment has been a huge disappointment that has crippled the team. Much, MUCH worse pick than Peat. Yet Peat gets all the criticism and Davenport gets a pass. Screw that !
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The Davenport pick/investment has been a huge disappointment that has crippled the team. Much, MUCH worse pick than Peat. Yet Peat gets all the criticism and Davenport gets a pass. Screw that !
Davenport is so good though and thatís what makes it hurt even more that he canít stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then heís gone.
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Old 10-23-2021, 09:02 PM   #47
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Davenport is so good though and thatís what makes it hurt even more that he canít stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then heís gone.
Thatís really kind of a myth though Chris. If you compare his per game production stats itís worse than Trey Hendrickson in just about every category. Itís just not true that heís worthy of this type of praise.
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Old 10-23-2021, 11:05 PM   #48
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I'll shoot you guys straight. Talk like this is similar to the last couple of years with Brees. It's not fun for me to discuss but it is inevitable. Cam has been the ultimate player and teammate.
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Old 10-24-2021, 09:19 AM   #49
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Davenport is so good though and thatís what makes it hurt even more that he canít stay healthy. When he plays he gives us these awesome glimpses of the incredible talent he has and then heís gone.
His play time has been as elusive as Bigfoot...
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Bump ...

Sacks in back-to-back games for Cam. He's only going to improve with a pi**ed off David O & Davenport on the Dline. Tanoh K(2 tackles/1 sack) continues to play well.

Atlanta O-line is struggling right now. Expect these guys to get in on Matty Ice this Sunday.

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