I Heard.....

SCSaintsFan · 09-16-2005, 12:24 PM

I'll show my age here

It seems to me, when they built the dome, the roof was NOT a cloth material. I thought it was metal, or some other non porous material. Did that change, or was I just too young to remember correctly?

If they changed the roofing material, at some point, that could be why it didn't hold up under the stress.

If I remember correctly, when they built the dome, it was supposed to survive 175mph winds or something?

Any corrections?

mjf150 · 09-16-2005, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat

I'm with SF on this - build a new stadium where the Dome sits now. Slidell is a worse location than NO - closer to Lake P and Lake Borgne and no real levee system. It got hit real hard by Katrina. Leave it where it is. The City needs higher levees and more pumps... they're not going to raise the entire city's elevation. C'mon.

OK, first look at a map. Slidell is quite a bit above sea-level, where as, New Orleans is way below.
Second, where would you have the Saints play while they are building a new stadium "where the Dome sits now"?

BlackandBlue · 09-16-2005, 01:33 PM

Tulane?

LordOfEntropy · 09-16-2005, 01:56 PM

[quote="BlackandBlue"]

So, what do you typically say to your new cellmates? :P

Welcome, my name is Lord Of Sodomy....

[quote="mjf150"]

Second, where would you have the Saints play while they are building a new stadium "where the Dome sits now"?

Death Valley....

I think a replacement stadium should be close enough to the French Quarter that it's easy to get to - i.e. a short walk or a quick ferry ride. No driving. Original plans were for Algiers, which fitted in with the ferry plan. That might still work.

I'm ok with tearing the Dome down, in fact I'd like to see it come down. But I'm not sure its location is the prime spot for a replacement. I'm beginning to wonder if Marie's curse is still lurking over it... and hell, I'm not even superstitious. Wow.

WhoDat · 09-16-2005, 02:00 PM

Tulane could play its games at Tad Gormley stadium in City Park. Frankly, that's a better spot for the team anyway. A 10,000 to 20,000 seat arena is far better for them.

The Saints could play at LSU - just as the Bears played a season at the University or Illinois in Champagne/Urbana while Soldier Field was being rebuilt.

Now that we've solved the apparently taxing logistical questions, on to Slidell. Shall I post a map of Slidell? Frankly, it's elevation is meaningless b/c of where it is located. Seeing as how it is not significantly above sea level and lacks the 25 to 30 feet of protection that New Orleans has in its levee system, Slidell is more suseptible to storm surges - which are the truly destructive force in any hurricane. The levees in New Orleans failed b/c they were built to withstand a category 3 storm, and the federal government ignored calls for 3 Billion dollars in funding to improve the City's defenses for years and years. Now they're spending hundreds of billions to repair the City, and people were lost as a result of their ignorance and apathy. The levees and pumps and other defenses in New Orleans will be stout after the rebuilding is complete. My guess is that Slidell will remain unprotected, essentially at the most vulnerable place for a storm surge to hit.

LordOfEntropy · 09-16-2005, 02:08 PM

Tulane could play its games at Tad Gormley

Good idea. The Dome was always empty for those games, it was so bad you could hear crickets chirping from the other side. Good idea. A smaller outdoor stadium would've been much better.

WhoDat · 09-16-2005, 02:14 PM

Thanks LOE - I've missed that face. It's good to have a nice vomit every once in a while. LOL

LordOfEntropy · 09-16-2005, 02:25 PM

That's why I post it. It's good to clean out the old system every once in a while.

BlackandBlue · 09-16-2005, 02:38 PM

Welcome, my name is Lord Of Sodomy....

LOL, so sick and twisted...yet funny.

mjf150 · 09-16-2005, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat

The Saints could play at LSU - just as the Bears played a season at the University or Illinois in Champagne/Urbana while Soldier Field was being rebuilt.

Now that we've solved the apparently taxing logistical questions, on to Slidell. Shall I post a map of Slidell? Frankly, it's elevation is meaningless b/c of where it is located. Seeing as how it is not significantly above sea level and lacks the 25 to 30 feet of protection that New Orleans has in its levee system, Slidell is more suseptible to storm surges - which are the truly destructive force in any hurricane.

First, "being rebuilt" is what we in the construction world call "re-no-va-ting". Renovating takes far less time than rebuilding.

Second, the fact alone that New Orleans is below sea-level and similiar to a bowl in design, lends itself to flooding. Make no mistake that no matter what man does to try to lessen the affects of nature, he can not stop it. There is no levee that can with stand a direct hit from a Cat 5 storm.

Besides I didn't come up with the location, the talking heads at the Saints' office suggested it.

09-16-2005, 12:34 PM	#12
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Originally Posted by WhoDat I'm with SF on this - build a new stadium where the Dome sits now. Slidell is a worse location than NO - closer to Lake P and Lake Borgne and no real levee system. It got hit real hard by Katrina. Leave it where it is. The City needs higher levees and more pumps... they're not going to raise the entire city's elevation. C'mon. OK, first look at a map. Slidell is quite a bit above sea-level, where as, New Orleans is way below. Second, where would you have the Saints play while they are building a new stadium "where the Dome sits now"?
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09-16-2005, 01:56 PM	#14
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	[quote="BlackandBlue"] So, what do you typically say to your new cellmates? :P Welcome, my name is Lord Of Sodomy.... [quote="mjf150"] Second, where would you have the Saints play while they are building a new stadium "where the Dome sits now"? Death Valley.... I think a replacement stadium should be close enough to the French Quarter that it's easy to get to - i.e. a short walk or a quick ferry ride. No driving. Original plans were for Algiers, which fitted in with the ferry plan. That might still work. I'm ok with tearing the Dome down, in fact I'd like to see it come down. But I'm not sure its location is the prime spot for a replacement. I'm beginning to wonder if Marie's curse is still lurking over it... and hell, I'm not even superstitious. Wow.
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09-16-2005, 02:00 PM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Tulane could play its games at Tad Gormley stadium in City Park. Frankly, that's a better spot for the team anyway. A 10,000 to 20,000 seat arena is far better for them. The Saints could play at LSU - just as the Bears played a season at the University or Illinois in Champagne/Urbana while Soldier Field was being rebuilt. Now that we've solved the apparently taxing logistical questions, on to Slidell. Shall I post a map of Slidell? Frankly, it's elevation is meaningless b/c of where it is located. Seeing as how it is not significantly above sea level and lacks the 25 to 30 feet of protection that New Orleans has in its levee system, Slidell is more suseptible to storm surges - which are the truly destructive force in any hurricane. The levees in New Orleans failed b/c they were built to withstand a category 3 storm, and the federal government ignored calls for 3 Billion dollars in funding to improve the City's defenses for years and years. Now they're spending hundreds of billions to repair the City, and people were lost as a result of their ignorance and apathy. The levees and pumps and other defenses in New Orleans will be stout after the rebuilding is complete. My guess is that Slidell will remain unprotected, essentially at the most vulnerable place for a storm surge to hit.
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Thanks LOE - I've missed that face. It's good to have a nice vomit every once in a while. LOL
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09-16-2005, 02:43 PM	#20
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Originally Posted by WhoDat The Saints could play at LSU - just as the Bears played a season at the University or Illinois in Champagne/Urbana while Soldier Field was being rebuilt. Now that we've solved the apparently taxing logistical questions, on to Slidell. Shall I post a map of Slidell? Frankly, it's elevation is meaningless b/c of where it is located. Seeing as how it is not significantly above sea level and lacks the 25 to 30 feet of protection that New Orleans has in its levee system, Slidell is more suseptible to storm surges - which are the truly destructive force in any hurricane. First, "being rebuilt" is what we in the construction world call "re-no-va-ting". Renovating takes far less time than rebuilding. Second, the fact alone that New Orleans is below sea-level and similiar to a bowl in design, lends itself to flooding. Make no mistake that no matter what man does to try to lessen the affects of nature, he can not stop it. There is no levee that can with stand a direct hit from a Cat 5 storm. Besides I didn't come up with the location, the talking heads at the Saints' office suggested it.
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09-16-2005, 12:24 PM	#11
SCSaintsFan Registered Join Date: May 2003 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 80	I'll show my age here It seems to me, when they built the dome, the roof was NOT a cloth material. I thought it was metal, or some other non porous material. Did that change, or was I just too young to remember correctly? If they changed the roofing material, at some point, that could be why it didn't hold up under the stress. If I remember correctly, when they built the dome, it was supposed to survive 175mph winds or something? Any corrections?

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09-16-2005, 01:33 PM	#13
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Tulane?

09-16-2005, 02:08 PM	#16
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Tulane could play its games at Tad Gormley Good idea. The Dome was always empty for those games, it was so bad you could hear crickets chirping from the other side. Good idea. A smaller outdoor stadium would've been much better.

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LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	That's why I post it. It's good to clean out the old system every once in a while.

09-16-2005, 02:38 PM	#19
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Welcome, my name is Lord Of Sodomy.... LOL, so sick and twisted...yet funny.