Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills

SmashMouth · 11-26-2021, 04:47 AM

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Time for a new QB?

Cruize · 11-26-2021, 06:46 AM

-Probably a league record for salary not playing.
-Armstead should not have been playing.
-Humphrey always makes a play or two.
-Time to start Hill. The plays he makes with his legs can make a difference.
-Granderson puts out the effort.
-Onyemata has been pretty invisible.
-Beat the Cowboys and be in the mix at 6-6. Get some guys back. At least make it interesting.

SaintGnome · 11-26-2021, 07:06 AM

-5-6+ second drop backs are not sustainable especially with our current O-line.
- really hate us continually going for two early in games, especially since were not good at it.
- I get that we don't have the fastest WRs but there are ways around that (Steve Largent is HOF and her was never the fastest guy on the field) are they not good route runners either? Even the veterans?
- D did everything could when they didn't get many breathers from the O.

ChrisXVI · 11-26-2021, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

-5-6+ second drop backs are not sustainable especially with our current O-line.
- really hate us continually going for two early in games, especially since were not good at it.
- I get that we don't have the fastest WRs but there are ways around that (Steve Largent is HOF and her was never the fastest guy on the field) are they not good route runners either? Even the veterans?
- D did everything could when they didn't get many breathers from the O.

They were undrafted for a reason.

Boston Saint · 11-26-2021, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

-5-6+ second drop backs are not sustainable especially with our current O-line.
- really hate us continually going for two early in games, especially since were not good at it.
- I get that we don't have the fastest WRs but there are ways around that (Steve Largent is HOF and her was never the fastest guy on the field) are they not good route runners either? Even the veterans?
- D did everything could when they didn't get many breathers from the O.

Only problem I have with this is the thoughts on the D. In no way am I blaming the loss on them. However, on their first drive of the game, the Bills drove easily for a TD. On the first drive of the second half, Bills had an over 6 minute drive down the Saints throat for a TD (including a converting on a 3rd and very long by a QB scramble IIRC). Those were against rested defenses and they were coffin nails when the offense is struggling.

blackangold · 11-26-2021, 09:54 AM

Not much good about this team.

Offense is among the worst in the league.
Defense is average at best.

Toss Book in there to see what you got and tank the rest of the season. They need to focus on rebuilding.

Playoffs lol… even if we made it, it would be a blowout loss in the wild card round. Let’s get a top 10 pick please.

RailBoss · 11-26-2021, 10:58 AM

Just think about Coach Moras legendary speech, serious I wonder if we can win another game. Maybe the Jets or Dolphins after that it's anybody's guess.

“Playoffs? Don’t talk about?playoffs?! You kidding me? Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game! Another game!” Mora cried out.

jnormand · 11-26-2021, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

They were undrafted for a reason.

Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR.

jnormand · 11-26-2021, 11:45 AM

I'm hungover. But it was worth it.

saintfan · 11-26-2021, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR.

Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them.

1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody.

2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it.

I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance.

11-26-2021, 06:46 AM	#2
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11-26-2021, 09:49 AM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by SaintGnome -5-6+ second drop backs are not sustainable especially with our current O-line. - really hate us continually going for two early in games, especially since were not good at it. - I get that we don't have the fastest WRs but there are ways around that (Steve Largent is HOF and her was never the fastest guy on the field) are they not good route runners either? Even the veterans? - D did everything could when they didn't get many breathers from the O. Only problem I have with this is the thoughts on the D. In no way am I blaming the loss on them. However, on their first drive of the game, the Bills drove easily for a TD. On the first drive of the second half, Bills had an over 6 minute drive down the Saints throat for a TD (including a converting on a 3rd and very long by a QB scramble IIRC). Those were against rested defenses and they were coffin nails when the offense is struggling.

11-26-2021, 09:54 AM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Not much good about this team. Offense is among the worst in the league. Defense is average at best. Toss Book in there to see what you got and tank the rest of the season. They need to focus on rebuilding. Playoffs lol… even if we made it, it would be a blowout loss in the wild card round. Let’s get a top 10 pick please. jnormand, neugey, RailBoss and 1 others like this.

11-26-2021, 10:58 AM	#7
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Just think about Coach Moras legendary speech, serious I wonder if we can win another game. Maybe the Jets or Dolphins after that it's anybody's guess. “Playoffs? Don’t talk about?playoffs?! You kidding me? Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game! Another game!” Mora cried out. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-26-2021, 11:44 AM	#8
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by ChrisXVI They were undrafted for a reason. Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by SaintGnome -5-6+ second drop backs are not sustainable especially with our current O-line. - really hate us continually going for two early in games, especially since were not good at it. - I get that we don't have the fastest WRs but there are ways around that (Steve Largent is HOF and her was never the fastest guy on the field) are they not good route runners either? Even the veterans? - D did everything could when they didn't get many breathers from the O. They were undrafted for a reason. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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11-26-2021, 11:51 AM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bills Originally Posted by jnormand Sorry, I personally don't think that's an excuse. They're NFL players. They are paid to play football. Specifically WR. Definitely not an excuse. But its still accurate. These guys clearly don't know how to play the position at a level that would make any of them more than anybody's #3, #4 WR. And we're starting them. 1. We clearly overrated our WR room, injuries notwithstanding. That has to be on SOMEbody. 2. OR, the team knew exactly that the room, overall, was not good, and simply had to sell the players to the fans cause we don't have the cap to fix it. I am not convinced Sean went into this season, with THESE WRs, and seriously thought he'd have a chance. jnormand, K Major and Boston Saint like this.
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