Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2021, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

My takes on last night:
Parsons is a beast and he is the real deal.
Diggs is good but he's believing the hype and can be had as we saw several times with average receivers.
Lamb is quick and can shake DB's on those out routes that were killing us all night. Two high zone on 3rd downs was not cutting it.
Harris was the star of that WR corps last night. Aside for a couple drops, he and Vannett kept most of the passing game alive.
O line functioned pretty well as a unit most of the night in spite of being a patchwork solution.
D front 7 shut down the run game effectively with the exception of that ridiculous long run by Pollard. (WTF, was up with Williams letting him run the sideline like that when he had the angle? Was he afraid of whiffing a solo tackle? Again?)
Then there was Taysom. His rushing was nothing short of glorious and Dallas had little answer for it. Kudos. But then, when he had to pass the ball? 1) Staring down your receivers; 2) No touch; 3) Short arming passes; 4) Throwing into double coverage; 5)When there were receivers open (which, surprisingly, they were several times last night), inability to lead them on crossing and fade routes to hit them in stride.

Short of some radical changes, Taysom is NOT the answer at QB. I wasn't thrilled with JW at first, but he proved he could move and score with this Offense. The front office would better serve the team short term by securing Winston. Otherwise, I see a long and painful walk to NFL relevance again.

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson's Joker: This offense needs an enema!

So, we need to flush Peat and Ruiz?

Boston Saint · 12-03-2021, 10:27 AM

every team has injuries as the season goes along. The Saints were no different this year and maybe their injuries were more significant than some other teams were.

I think a Winston lead team with a healthy CGM, a healthy Kamara, a capable kicker and the offensive line they had hoped would be available would be a playoff team and could play with any team in the league. Unfortunately we don’t have that. If the team gets a pick in the top ten maybe it will be a chance for a good draft and they bounce back next year.

Watching that last seahawks game, I am less excited about possibly having Wilson at QB.

K Major · 12-03-2021, 10:52 AM

You make every phone call you can this off-season.

saintsfan1976 · 12-03-2021, 11:01 AM

Weird that despite the mistakes, penalties and injuries we were still in this one. Felt like we could have come on top.

We've officially hit rock bottom in my opinion. That's good. It was inevitable.

Boston Saint · 12-03-2021, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Weird that despite the mistakes, penalties and injuries we were still in this one. Felt like we could have come on top.

We've officially hit rock bottom in my opinion. That's good. It was inevitable.

One of my poker friends is a Jets Fan. It can always get worse. 😆

ChrisXVI · 12-03-2021, 11:50 AM

ChrisXVI · 12-05-2021, 06:15 PM

Cellar dwellers baby!

K Major · 12-05-2021, 06:44 PM

The Saints have a better shot at a top 10 draft pick than making the playoffs.

AsylumGuido · 12-05-2021, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints have a better shot at a top 10 draft pick than making the playoffs.

I'd much rather make the playoffs. To hell with a top 10 draft pick.

neugey · 12-05-2021, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'd much rather make the playoffs. To hell with a top 10 draft pick.

With the Falcons, Panthers, Vikings and Niners all losing today it was a pretty ideal day for us. It's gonna be an absolute pig pile for those last few NFC playoff spots - who knows!

12-07-2021, 02:18 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Originally Posted by leilung My takes on last night: Parsons is a beast and he is the real deal. Diggs is good but he's believing the hype and can be had as we saw several times with average receivers. Lamb is quick and can shake DB's on those out routes that were killing us all night. Two high zone on 3rd downs was not cutting it. Harris was the star of that WR corps last night. Aside for a couple drops, he and Vannett kept most of the passing game alive. O line functioned pretty well as a unit most of the night in spite of being a patchwork solution. D front 7 shut down the run game effectively with the exception of that ridiculous long run by Pollard. (WTF, was up with Williams letting him run the sideline like that when he had the angle? Was he afraid of whiffing a solo tackle? Again?) Then there was Taysom. His rushing was nothing short of glorious and Dallas had little answer for it. Kudos. But then, when he had to pass the ball? 1) Staring down your receivers; 2) No touch; 3) Short arming passes; 4) Throwing into double coverage; 5)When there were receivers open (which, surprisingly, they were several times last night), inability to lead them on crossing and fade routes to hit them in stride. Short of some radical changes, Taysom is NOT the answer at QB. I wasn't thrilled with JW at first, but he proved he could move and score with this Offense. The front office would better serve the team short term by securing Winston. Otherwise, I see a long and painful walk to NFL relevance again. To paraphrase Jack Nicholson's Joker: This offense needs an enema! So, we need to flush Peat and Ruiz?

12-03-2021, 10:27 AM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys every team has injuries as the season goes along. The Saints were no different this year and maybe their injuries were more significant than some other teams were. I think a Winston lead team with a healthy CGM, a healthy Kamara, a capable kicker and the offensive line they had hoped would be available would be a playoff team and could play with any team in the league. Unfortunately we don’t have that. If the team gets a pick in the top ten maybe it will be a chance for a good draft and they bounce back next year. Watching that last seahawks game, I am less excited about possibly having Wilson at QB. RailBoss likes this.
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12-03-2021, 10:52 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys You make every phone call you can this off-season. Boutte and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-03-2021, 11:01 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Weird that despite the mistakes, penalties and injuries we were still in this one. Felt like we could have come on top. We've officially hit rock bottom in my opinion. That's good. It was inevitable. leilung, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Weird that despite the mistakes, penalties and injuries we were still in this one. Felt like we could have come on top. We've officially hit rock bottom in my opinion. That's good. It was inevitable. One of my poker friends is a Jets Fan. It can always get worse. 😆 RailBoss and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-03-2021, 11:50 AM	#6
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12-05-2021, 06:15 PM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Twitter Cellar dwellers baby!

12-05-2021, 06:44 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys The Saints have a better shot at a top 10 draft pick than making the playoffs. saintfan likes this.

12-05-2021, 06:49 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Originally Posted by K Major The Saints have a better shot at a top 10 draft pick than making the playoffs. I'd much rather make the playoffs. To hell with a top 10 draft pick. neugey and Boutte like this.

12-05-2021, 06:58 PM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Cowboys Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'd much rather make the playoffs. To hell with a top 10 draft pick. With the Falcons, Panthers, Vikings and Niners all losing today it was a pretty ideal day for us. It's gonna be an absolute pig pile for those last few NFC playoff spots - who knows! Rugby Saint II likes this.