NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith

K Major · 12-20-2021, 01:29 PM

Trequan Smith disappeared (17 yards) last night. Saw him making business moves after Lavonte' popped him early in 1st quarter.

Thank goodness our #4 WR in Callaway came to play.

Again, I'd let Tre' walk in 2022. He's not helping us move the chains.

SmashMouth · 12-20-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Trequan Smith disappeared (17 yards) last night. Saw him making business moves after Lavonte' popped him early in 1st quarter.

Thank goodness our #4 WR in Callaway came to play.

Again, I'd let Tre' walk in 2022. He's not helping us move the chains.

It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it?

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it?

Unfortunately it takes two parties to play pass and catch. Both Taysom (injured finger) and Siemian (ineptitude) haven't shown the consistent ability to throw catchable balls when the receivers do get open. I think Brees could take the field today and be making what we have now look like solid NFL starters.

dizzle88 · 12-20-2021, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Unfortunately it takes two parties to play pass and catch. Both Taysom (injured finger) and Siemian (ineptitude) haven't shown the consistent ability to throw catchable balls when the receivers do get open. I think Brees could take the field today and be making what we have now look like solid NFL starters.

I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season.

Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season.

Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better.

Yeah. That pass was nice. His problem has been on those 10-15 yarders.

Boston Saint · 12-20-2021, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season.

Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better.

No guarantee he will be back of course, but I still think Winston has more potential and upside as a starter. Just my opinion and I’m not trying to start a big debate.

K Major · 12-20-2021, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it?

I only see one route runner on the roster and he's gone for the year. Tre, Kenny, Chris Hogen, Kevin White, etc just don't have the ability to get open.

Deonte & Callaway are the only guys worth keeping around next season.

Help your QB out, come back to the ball or go get it in traffic.

Draft 2, then go get a dawg in Free Agency. We need help offensively.

saintfan · 12-20-2021, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it?

I think it is that hard.

The WR group was sucking from day 1. With Jameis, who was throwing catchable balls, certainly not inept, and didn't have an injured finger. Our inability to have a meaningful passing game has been present regardless of who is throwing.

Give me Hill, and solid and healthy oline, and a few WRs who understand in the NFL you have to play with nuance. I'm not sure we have anybody on the roster who understands that. At least Calloway is trying. Smith sure isn't. And we need a freaking TE.

SmashMouth · 12-20-2021, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I think it is that hard.

The WR group was sucking from day 1. With Jameis, who was throwing catchable balls, certainly not inept, and didn't have an injured finger. Our inability to have a meaningful passing game has been present regardless of who is throwing.

Give me Hill, and solid and healthy oline, and a few WRs who understand in the NFL you have to play with nuance. I'm not sure we have anybody on the roster who understands that. At least Calloway is trying. Smith sure isn't. And we need a freaking TE.

Is it even remotely possible that the Saints' front office has not been nearly as successful in properly assessing talent for the WR room as other positions? If so, does the WR coach have any input? We know who this is and all think he's a good coach... or is he? Ireland's addition has been invaluable. So why has he failed us at getting us proper WRs? As a comparison, who are the New England WRs? I can't name one off the top of my head. Are they pass catchers, decent blockers, and route runners? Methinks more than ours are, even with our QB situation.

saintfan · 12-20-2021, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Is it even remotely possible that the Saints' front office has not been nearly as successful in properly assessing talent for the WR room as other positions? If so, does the WR coach have any input? We know who this is and all think he's a good coach... or is he? Ireland's addition has been invaluable. So why has he failed us at getting us proper WRs? As a comparison, who are the New England WRs? I can't name one off the top of my head. Are they pass catchers, decent blockers, and route runners? Methinks more than ours are, even with our QB situation.

I can't prove it of course. I think management knows what we have. I don't think we have a coaching problem. Sean is not going to stand at the podium and reveal what I think he already knows and knew before the season started: Our WR room is optimistically borderline decent.

That was WITH MT as the 1. Because of that we were going to be a run first offense. But we had MT. MT maybe brings one of these guys along...Calloway maybe. I think we whiffed on Smith, but it happens. That guy is not the answer...for anything. I still think losing Thomas hurt this team a LOT more than most probably do. Along with 1 talent he brought fire on Offense. We are loaded with that on Defense.

And neither is Trautman the answer at TE. I'm off that dude like JP is off on Armstead. Cut bait on that fool. Armstead may be injury prone, but nobody is better than he is when he's 75% even. Trautman will always be a tease. He hurt his knee cause he don't know how to fall. He flops to the ground. If he ever does figure it out he will be one of those guys who can't suit up because he's hurt for some thing or other.

I think they sold us snake oil. They kinda had no choice. Hard decisions had to be made. Poor Jameis. He was playing the hand he was dealt, playing within the system...nobody would catch the damn ball...or get open. Imagine if they had...

Pulling for them to turn it around of course. I just don't think we have enough talent at WR, everything else notwithstanding.

12-20-2021, 01:29 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Trequan Smith disappeared (17 yards) last night. Saw him making business moves after Lavonte' popped him early in 1st quarter. Thank goodness our #4 WR in Callaway came to play. Again, I'd let Tre' walk in 2022. He's not helping us move the chains. Boston Saint likes this.

12-20-2021, 01:38 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,961 Blog Entries: 29	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by K Major Trequan Smith disappeared (17 yards) last night. Saw him making business moves after Lavonte' popped him early in 1st quarter. Thank goodness our #4 WR in Callaway came to play. Again, I'd let Tre' walk in 2022. He's not helping us move the chains. It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it?

12-20-2021, 02:21 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by SmashMouth It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it? Unfortunately it takes two parties to play pass and catch. Both Taysom (injured finger) and Siemian (ineptitude) haven't shown the consistent ability to throw catchable balls when the receivers do get open. I think Brees could take the field today and be making what we have now look like solid NFL starters.

12-20-2021, 02:54 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by dizzle88 I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season. Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better. Yeah. That pass was nice. His problem has been on those 10-15 yarders. dizzle88 likes this.

12-20-2021, 03:02 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by dizzle88 I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season. Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better. No guarantee he will be back of course, but I still think Winston has more potential and upside as a starter. Just my opinion and I’m not trying to start a big debate. dizzle88, ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

12-20-2021, 02:34 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Unfortunately it takes two parties to play pass and catch. Both Taysom (injured finger) and Siemian (ineptitude) haven't shown the consistent ability to throw catchable balls when the receivers do get open. I think Brees could take the field today and be making what we have now look like solid NFL starters. I do have to admit, Taysom's deep pass to Callaway showed nice touch and accuracy, something I didn't see last season. Hopefully he can become more consistent and allow this offense to get better. AsylumGuido likes this.

12-20-2021, 02:31 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by SmashMouth It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it? I only see one route runner on the roster and he's gone for the year. Tre, Kenny, Chris Hogen, Kevin White, etc just don't have the ability to get open. Deonte & Callaway are the only guys worth keeping around next season. Help your QB out, come back to the ball or go get it in traffic. Draft 2, then go get a dawg in Free Agency. We need help offensively.

12-20-2021, 04:28 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by SmashMouth It's truly befuddling why these guys can't take advantage of their opportunities. It can't by that hard, can it? I think it is that hard. The WR group was sucking from day 1. With Jameis, who was throwing catchable balls, certainly not inept, and didn't have an injured finger. Our inability to have a meaningful passing game has been present regardless of who is throwing. Give me Hill, and solid and healthy oline, and a few WRs who understand in the NFL you have to play with nuance. I'm not sure we have anybody on the roster who understands that. At least Calloway is trying. Smith sure isn't. And we need a freaking TE. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

12-20-2021, 07:01 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,961 Blog Entries: 29	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by saintfan I think it is that hard. The WR group was sucking from day 1. With Jameis, who was throwing catchable balls, certainly not inept, and didn't have an injured finger. Our inability to have a meaningful passing game has been present regardless of who is throwing. Give me Hill, and solid and healthy oline, and a few WRs who understand in the NFL you have to play with nuance. I'm not sure we have anybody on the roster who understands that. At least Calloway is trying. Smith sure isn't. And we need a freaking TE. Is it even remotely possible that the Saints' front office has not been nearly as successful in properly assessing talent for the WR room as other positions? If so, does the WR coach have any input? We know who this is and all think he's a good coach... or is he? Ireland's addition has been invaluable. So why has he failed us at getting us proper WRs? As a comparison, who are the New England WRs? I can't name one off the top of my head. Are they pass catchers, decent blockers, and route runners? Methinks more than ours are, even with our QB situation. Boston Saint likes this.

12-20-2021, 07:50 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NOLA Saints: 6 college prospects who could replace Tre’Quan Smith Originally Posted by SmashMouth Is it even remotely possible that the Saints' front office has not been nearly as successful in properly assessing talent for the WR room as other positions? If so, does the WR coach have any input? We know who this is and all think he's a good coach... or is he? Ireland's addition has been invaluable. So why has he failed us at getting us proper WRs? As a comparison, who are the New England WRs? I can't name one off the top of my head. Are they pass catchers, decent blockers, and route runners? Methinks more than ours are, even with our QB situation. I can't prove it of course. I think management knows what we have. I don't think we have a coaching problem. Sean is not going to stand at the podium and reveal what I think he already knows and knew before the season started: Our WR room is optimistically borderline decent. That was WITH MT as the 1. Because of that we were going to be a run first offense. But we had MT. MT maybe brings one of these guys along...Calloway maybe. I think we whiffed on Smith, but it happens. That guy is not the answer...for anything. I still think losing Thomas hurt this team a LOT more than most probably do. Along with 1 talent he brought fire on Offense. We are loaded with that on Defense. And neither is Trautman the answer at TE. I'm off that dude like JP is off on Armstead. Cut bait on that fool. Armstead may be injury prone, but nobody is better than he is when he's 75% even. Trautman will always be a tease. He hurt his knee cause he don't know how to fall. He flops to the ground. If he ever does figure it out he will be one of those guys who can't suit up because he's hurt for some thing or other. I think they sold us snake oil. They kinda had no choice. Hard decisions had to be made. Poor Jameis. He was playing the hand he was dealt, playing within the system...nobody would catch the damn ball...or get open. Imagine if they had... Pulling for them to turn it around of course. I just don't think we have enough talent at WR, everything else notwithstanding. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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