Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs

The Dude · 12-20-2021, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after tonight. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.

Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus.
If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games.
Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime.

Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is.

dizzle88 · 12-20-2021, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus.
If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games.
Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime.

Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is.

Honestly, people will say he's a competitor but he's such a sore loser it's unreal.

After the pick he ran over and shouted at one of our coaches too, guy is a grade A tool.

K Major · 12-20-2021, 06:36 PM

If Adam Gase

can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.

K Major · 12-20-2021, 06:40 PM

Panthers, Giants, and Texans could all have HC vacancies once the 2021 season is complete.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.

Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.

Boston Saint · 12-20-2021, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If Adam Gase can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.

Especially considering the franchise he coached for. Not many coaches have had success with the raiders since Gruden left the first time.

RailBoss · 12-20-2021, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.

That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities.

LOL!

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.

Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.

and trust me I don't want him to leave

12-20-2021, 06:29 PM	#41
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after tonight. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long. Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus. If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games. Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime. Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else. I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is. jnormand, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 6 others like this.
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12-20-2021, 06:35 PM	#42
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by The Dude Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus. If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games. Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime. Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else. I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is. Honestly, people will say he's a competitor but he's such a sore loser it's unreal. After the pick he ran over and shouted at one of our coaches too, guy is a grade A tool. jnormand, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

12-20-2021, 06:36 PM	#43
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs If Adam Gase can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen? He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach. Rueben Mayes, SaintGnome and Boston Saint like this.

12-20-2021, 06:40 PM	#44
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Panthers, Giants, and Texans could all have HC vacancies once the 2021 season is complete. Rueben Mayes likes this.

12-20-2021, 06:40 PM	#45
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long. Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try. Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season. Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.

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12-20-2021, 06:41 PM	#46
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by K Major If Adam Gase can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen? He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach. Especially considering the franchise he coached for. Not many coaches have had success with the raiders since Gruden left the first time. Rueben Mayes likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long. That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities.

12-20-2021, 06:45 PM	#48
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by RailBoss That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities. LOL! Thirty3 likes this.

12-20-2021, 06:50 PM	#49
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try. Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season. Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know. Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.

12-20-2021, 06:51 PM	#50
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try. Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season. Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know. Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this. and trust me I don't want him to leave