Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.

I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle.

"The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence."

Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level.

That said, I can see a team offering him a ton of money trying to steal him from the Saints as a DC.

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If Adam Gase can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.

And Josh McDaniel keeps getting mentioned, and he didn't light the world on fire either.

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle.

"The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence."

Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level.

per your opinion

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

per your opinion

Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC.

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC.

Yup, got it, I heard you

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yup, got it, I heard you

I'm not sure everyone will think as you do.

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I'm not sure everyone will think as you do.

Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not.

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not.

Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC

AsylumGuido · 12-20-2021, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC

If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what?

SaintGnome · 12-20-2021, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what?

Yeah, again, AGAIN, I got it. Do you always HAVE to have the last word?

12-20-2021, 07:52 PM	#51
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this. I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle. "The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence." Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level. That said, I can see a team offering him a ton of money trying to steal him from the Saints as a DC.

12-20-2021, 07:53 PM	#52
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by K Major If Adam Gase can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen? He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach. And Josh McDaniel keeps getting mentioned, and he didn't light the world on fire either. K Major likes this.

12-20-2021, 07:53 PM	#53
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle. "The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence." Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level. per your opinion

12-20-2021, 07:57 PM	#54
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome per your opinion Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC.

12-20-2021, 08:02 PM	#55
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC. Yup, got it, I heard you

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12-20-2021, 08:04 PM	#56
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yup, got it, I heard you I'm not sure everyone will think as you do.

12-20-2021, 08:07 PM	#57
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome I'm not sure everyone will think as you do. Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not.

12-20-2021, 08:10 PM	#58
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not. Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC K Major likes this.

12-20-2021, 08:20 PM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what?

12-20-2021, 08:25 PM	#60
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Observations From The Saints' Win vs Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what? Yeah, again, AGAIN, I got it. Do you always HAVE to have the last word?