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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It was ugly tonight, no question. However, glass half full, are defense has been pretty bad a— since the Buffalo game. Even against Dallas our defense played well enough to win. They have only given up 3 touchdowns in last ...

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Old 12-27-2021, 11:50 PM   #11
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Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD.

It was ugly tonight, no question. However, glass half full, are defense has been pretty bad a— since the Buffalo game. Even against Dallas our defense played well enough to win. They have only given up 3 touchdowns in last 4 games. I don’t care who you play that is legit.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:51 PM   #12
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I hear you - My cousin is a Jets Fan - But if we do a battle of bad highlights reels, after tonight, I think I got him beat.
But we beat the Jets.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:52 PM   #13
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We need to realize that we can’t stay in perpetual win now mode forever. At some point we need Mickey Loomis or his successor to work some cap magic to accelerate more of Peat and Thomas’s salary to nearer years with a restructured contract to free up money long term so that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. At some point we need to trade some veterans in their prime for picks no extend then with record deals, a formula that has been successful over the years in new england. At some point we need to trade back in the draft, realizing we need more depth because we are not just one player away. We haven’t begun rebuilding, we have still been restructuring contracts to free up every dollar to win now with no regard to tomorrow. We need to realize its time to rebuild. Not to double down on veterans like peat, thomas, and hill who if they have one good year left, it will probably come too soon for when we can get out of cap hell to put a team around them.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:58 PM   #14
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Thomas, smith, armstead and peat need to go. On the defensive side I would let Davenport walk. I know it’s tough because he’s playing well but the guy just doesn’t stay healthy. See Christian mccaffery. But all is for not if you don’t have the right guy directing the offense. Not sure who that will be but that is priority one right now. Who would y’all like to see. I’m all in on care or Wilson just not sure if we could afford either one.
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Old 12-27-2021, 11:59 PM   #15
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We were doomed when Slant Boy went MIA over the spring/summer. The team was caught woefully unprepared to usher in the new era on offense.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:20 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by keithday123 View Post
On the defensive side I would let Davenport walk. I know it’s tough because he’s playing well but the guy just doesn’t stay healthy. See Christian mccaffery. But all is for not if you don’t have the right guy directing the offense. Not sure who that will be but that is priority one right now. Who would y’all like to see. I’m all in on care or Wilson just not sure if we could afford either one.


Not happening with Davenport. Premium pass rushers are hard to come by & no way the Saints brass will allow him to walk.

Wilson, ARod, probably pipe dreams + it's gonna cost you too much draft capital. Thomas isn't going anywhere but I'd let Trequan & Stills walk.

Get better O-line depth & draft another G. The Saints offseason will be interesting.
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Old 12-28-2021, 06:39 AM   #17
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Can we still make the playoffs?

I thought we had to win all our remaining games, including lasts nights game,
to stand any chance of making the post season.
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Old 12-28-2021, 07:56 AM   #18
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I think Siemian is our best QB, but the problem is that there is no way to effectively evaluate that because the players around our QBs are horrible.
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Old 12-28-2021, 07:56 AM   #19
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You have to play the hand you are dealt! All Saints Fans all knew when Brees left things weren't going to be the same. There is a reason talent like his is called "Generational" and that doesn't mean they are the #1 selection in the Draft. Ask the J - E -T - S, JETS, JETS, JETS and THE LIONS.
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Old 12-28-2021, 08:28 AM   #20
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Thoughts from the game:

- Seems like the Dolphins out-coached us on both sides of the ball. Dolphins seem to be a organized team without many big names but they play hard. I am envious of the pistol playbook they use - I hope in coming years we add that to our arsenal because I think our running game and Jameis/Hill/Book would fare better if we had more pistol and less shotgun.

- Gotta wear the gold pants more. As of late they have the mojo. And they look so much damn better.

- Related to the above, more concerns with the playcalling. I thought we used too much shotgun and would have been better served having Ian under center and keeping the defense guessing if they were defending a run or a rollout pass. I also don't think we ran off tackle or to the outside enough to get the most out of Kamara.

- That was the worst OL play I remember seeing in the CSP era. It looked like David Carr Texans era blocking . I know they are a MASH unit, but even for that it looked pretty bad. Need Ramcyzk back in particular ASAP.

- There seems to be a pattern where we expend a ton of effort beating Tampa and then we look drained the next week. The defense played fairly well, but the tackling was spotty.

- This guy in the midwest wearing an Ian Book jersey had a good night of cuddling and talking with his wife later last night. So all in all things weren't so bad for me.
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