AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD.

vpheughan · 12-28-2021, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanQ

Can we still make the playoffs?

I thought we had to win all our remaining games, including lasts nights game,
to stand any chance of making the post season.

Sayeth The Narcissist: 7- 10 Baby!!

K Major · 12-28-2021, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

I think Siemian is our best QB, but the problem is that there is no way to effectively evaluate that because the players around our QBs are horrible.

0-4 Trevor?

Cmon buddy, he’s not helping this team healthy or not.

Hope that we get a guy or two back on the O line and insert Taysom if he’s healthy enough to play on Sunday.

Saintsfan4ever · 12-28-2021, 08:47 AM

My 24yr old nephew's experience as a Saints' fan is far different from mine. He's only known the Brees/Payton era of winning. Some of us old goats were hopeful & optimistic but deep down we knew this magic carpet ride was over when Brees hung up his cleats.
And like you, I'm also very disappointed about last night's performance. But I also realize the NFL should've never allowed this game to be played while we had 20+ players & 4 coaches out with Covid protocols. No team in this league could've won last night if they were missing the same key players.

LivnaLieTimay · 12-28-2021, 08:58 AM

The front office needs to decide this off-season what direction we’re going to go in. We need to be all in or blow it up. Coming into this season it felt like we were stuck in between and the result is a predictable 500 team. We restructured some contracts to keep some starters but that left us with one of the thinnest rosters in the league and a question mark at the most important position. We also missed in the draft this year which further added to the lack of depth. Unfortunately this year with COVID wreaking havoc, our lack of depth was magnified and wound up costing us the season.

This offseason I say we go after Russell Wilson or clean house. If we go after Russ we have the defense and we can restructure some contracts. With Russ and this defense, MT will come back and we should be able to bring in some quality vets at a decent price similar to what Tampa did once they signed Brady.

Or, we start cleaning house and getting out of some of these contracts. Get under the cap and rebuild this team.

What we can’t do is tread water to be a pretty good team and as long as we don’t have a top tier QB we’re going to stuck in the middle of the pack. It’s going to be a big offseason for this front office and I’m curious to see how it all plays out.

SmashMouth · 12-28-2021, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Agreed. Our coaches this year have all but worked a miracle. I have little interest in the playoffs now for a few weeks. Always fun to hope of course. This team just needs a lot of work. Any real shot we had (in my opinion) went down with Jameis, but he was playing with one hand tied behind his back and a WR group that can't even catch covid...

Well... To be fair, someone caught them some Covid.

ChrisXVI · 12-28-2021, 09:44 AM

Terron Armstead is going to leave in free agency… Which sucks because we’ve restructured his contract so many times that he’ll leave $13 million in dead cap. We’ll move Ramczyk to LT and James Hurst will likely be the favorite to play RT.

Peat and Ruiz aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next season.

If we re-sign Jameis we can focus on getting some top-tier pass catchers to get the offense humming again.

Boston Saint · 12-28-2021, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Terron Armstead is going to leave in free agency… Which sucks because we’ve restructured his contract so many times that he’ll leave $13 million in dead cap. We’ll move Ramczyk to LT and James Hurst will likely be the favorite to play RT.

Peat and Ruiz aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next season.

If we re-sign Jameis we can focus on getting some top-tier pass catchers to get the offense humming again.

A big factor will be the potential return and effectiveness of Thomas. Still have heard crickets about how his injury rehab is going. He should change his handle from CGM to CFM...” can’t find Mike“! But if he does come back healthy that goes a long way to fixing a receiving corps

Boston Saint · 12-28-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

0-4 Trevor?

Cmon buddy, he’s not helping this team healthy or not.

Hope that we get a guy or two back on the O line and insert Taysom if he’s healthy enough to play on Sunday.

This is true major, but they make a couple kicks or get a couple
calls or the D plays nearly as well as it did against Tampa or last night then they beat the titans and the atlanta chickens and Trevor is 2-2.

The Dude · 12-28-2021, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanQ

Can we still make the playoffs?

I thought we had to win all our remaining games, including lasts nights game,
to stand any chance of making the post season.

So we make the playoffs, then what? We will be embarrassed and bounced out of the first round faster than a hooker in church.

SaintsBro · 12-28-2021, 10:21 AM

It's been rough, but it'd be soooo much worse without this defense and without Payton. Don't even go there. Without Payton this would be a 3 win team, tops.

12-28-2021, 08:37 AM	#21
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by SaintFanQ Can we still make the playoffs? I thought we had to win all our remaining games, including lasts nights game, to stand any chance of making the post season. Sayeth The Narcissist: 7- 10 Baby!!
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12-28-2021, 08:38 AM	#22
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by hitta I think Siemian is our best QB, but the problem is that there is no way to effectively evaluate that because the players around our QBs are horrible. 0-4 Trevor? Cmon buddy, he’s not helping this team healthy or not. Hope that we get a guy or two back on the O line and insert Taysom if he’s healthy enough to play on Sunday. Rsanders24 likes this.

12-28-2021, 08:47 AM	#23
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. My 24yr old nephew's experience as a Saints' fan is far different from mine. He's only known the Brees/Payton era of winning. Some of us old goats were hopeful & optimistic but deep down we knew this magic carpet ride was over when Brees hung up his cleats. And like you, I'm also very disappointed about last night's performance. But I also realize the NFL should've never allowed this game to be played while we had 20+ players & 4 coaches out with Covid protocols. No team in this league could've won last night if they were missing the same key players. Rugby Saint II, Sinner, FinSaint and 1 others like this.
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12-28-2021, 08:58 AM	#24
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,494	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. The front office needs to decide this off-season what direction we’re going to go in. We need to be all in or blow it up. Coming into this season it felt like we were stuck in between and the result is a predictable 500 team. We restructured some contracts to keep some starters but that left us with one of the thinnest rosters in the league and a question mark at the most important position. We also missed in the draft this year which further added to the lack of depth. Unfortunately this year with COVID wreaking havoc, our lack of depth was magnified and wound up costing us the season. This offseason I say we go after Russell Wilson or clean house. If we go after Russ we have the defense and we can restructure some contracts. With Russ and this defense, MT will come back and we should be able to bring in some quality vets at a decent price similar to what Tampa did once they signed Brady. Or, we start cleaning house and getting out of some of these contracts. Get under the cap and rebuild this team. What we can’t do is tread water to be a pretty good team and as long as we don’t have a top tier QB we’re going to stuck in the middle of the pack. It’s going to be a big offseason for this front office and I’m curious to see how it all plays out. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by saintfan Agreed. Our coaches this year have all but worked a miracle. I have little interest in the playoffs now for a few weeks. Always fun to hope of course. This team just needs a lot of work. Any real shot we had (in my opinion) went down with Jameis, but he was playing with one hand tied behind his back and a WR group that can't even catch covid... Well... To be fair, someone caught them some Covid. saintfan likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Terron Armstead is going to leave in free agency… Which sucks because we’ve restructured his contract so many times that he’ll leave $13 million in dead cap. We’ll move Ramczyk to LT and James Hurst will likely be the favorite to play RT. Peat and Ruiz aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next season. If we re-sign Jameis we can focus on getting some top-tier pass catchers to get the offense humming again. Boston Saint likes this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Terron Armstead is going to leave in free agency… Which sucks because we’ve restructured his contract so many times that he’ll leave $13 million in dead cap. We’ll move Ramczyk to LT and James Hurst will likely be the favorite to play RT. Peat and Ruiz aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next season. If we re-sign Jameis we can focus on getting some top-tier pass catchers to get the offense humming again. A big factor will be the potential return and effectiveness of Thomas. Still have heard crickets about how his injury rehab is going. He should change his handle from CGM to CFM...” can’t find Mike“! But if he does come back healthy that goes a long way to fixing a receiving corps ChrisXVI likes this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by K Major 0-4 Trevor? Cmon buddy, he’s not helping this team healthy or not. Hope that we get a guy or two back on the O line and insert Taysom if he’s healthy enough to play on Sunday. This is true major, but they make a couple kicks or get a couple calls or the D plays nearly as well as it did against Tampa or last night then they beat the titans and the atlanta chickens and Trevor is 2-2.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. It's been rough, but it'd be soooo much worse without this defense and without Payton. Don't even go there. Without Payton this would be a 3 win team, tops. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.