Season Wrapup

Thirty3 · 01-12-2022, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go.

Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role.

Hill did NOT play with the same players.
Offensive line changed like 18 times.
Hill NEVER had Ingram.
Tight end replacements
Hill did not have Deonte Harris most of the time
I'm sure someone could give us the rundown on different receivers though even with lesser recievers and the above Hill put up better passing stats. In his last full game he had 5 scoring drives MINUS Terron Armstead and Ramczyk.
Hill played with a DECIMATED Offense and Defense and many players playing injured INCLUDING HIMSELF. Jameis had the whole team INCLUDING Hill all fresh and healthy for first six games.
Go back and watch the whole season again and tell me you wouldn't rather any quarterback on our team more than Winston. Winston was insecure about what he was doing and Coach Payton ADMITTED he was keeping the play calling vanilla, though he didn't admit why. With Hill the whole playbook was open with a few more special plays for him. Yes, I am on the Hill bandwagon. LOL

AsylumGuido · 01-12-2022, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Hill did NOT play with the same players.
Offensive line changed like 18 times.

Jameis had the whole team INCLUDING Hill all fresh and healthy for first six games. LOL

You might want to go back and check the final injury report for the first six weeks. Both Armstead and McCoy missed most of those games.

Budsdrinker · 01-13-2022, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You might want to go back and check the final injury report for the first six weeks. Both Armstead and McCoy missed most of those games.

The QB missing the most significant players was Siemian. I'm open for using preseason for what it is intended and have QB competition again. I'm for giving
Jamesis another shot. He was looking good before the injury. Still had some indecision but was getting better. I'm sure coming off of injury he will sign a cap friendly contract. It is pretty much impossible to grade any QB's from 2021 season with the all the missing pieces for most of the season. Here's to a healthier 2022.

Boston Saint · 01-12-2022, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Go back and watch the whole season again and tell me you wouldn't rather any quarterback on our team more than Winston.

I would rather have Winston than ANY other QB that the Saints had on their roster this season. He is BY FAR the best QB on the team. PERIOD.

All my opinion of course.

rezburna · 01-12-2022, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I would rather have Winston than ANY other QB that the Saints had on their roster this season. He is BY FAR the best QB on the team. PERIOD.

All my opinion of course.

I’m so confused as to how anybody could see it any other way.

RailBoss · 01-12-2022, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m so confused as to how anybody could see it any other way.

Take it from Dirty Harry..
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AsylumGuido · 01-13-2022, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m so confused as to how anybody could see it any other way.

Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps?

iceshack149 · 01-13-2022, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps?

Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet.

It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me.

AsylumGuido · 01-13-2022, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet.

It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me.

Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling.

saintfan · 01-13-2022, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling.

The why don't you elaborate on your bull**** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little

?

You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ****ed up for faking that kind of ****, and rightfully so.

You sick little race-baiting ****er...

01-12-2022, 02:53 PM	#1
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by Rsanders24 We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go. Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role. Hill did NOT play with the same players. Offensive line changed like 18 times. Hill NEVER had Ingram. Tight end replacements Hill did not have Deonte Harris most of the time I'm sure someone could give us the rundown on different receivers though even with lesser recievers and the above Hill put up better passing stats. In his last full game he had 5 scoring drives MINUS Terron Armstead and Ramczyk. Hill played with a DECIMATED Offense and Defense and many players playing injured INCLUDING HIMSELF. Jameis had the whole team INCLUDING Hill all fresh and healthy for first six games. Go back and watch the whole season again and tell me you wouldn't rather any quarterback on our team more than Winston. Winston was insecure about what he was doing and Coach Payton ADMITTED he was keeping the play calling vanilla, though he didn't admit why. With Hill the whole playbook was open with a few more special plays for him. Yes, I am on the Hill bandwagon. LOL jnormand likes this.
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01-12-2022, 03:03 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by Thirty3 Hill did NOT play with the same players. Offensive line changed like 18 times. Jameis had the whole team INCLUDING Hill all fresh and healthy for first six games. LOL You might want to go back and check the final injury report for the first six weeks. Both Armstead and McCoy missed most of those games. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

01-13-2022, 11:19 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You might want to go back and check the final injury report for the first six weeks. Both Armstead and McCoy missed most of those games. The QB missing the most significant players was Siemian. I'm open for using preseason for what it is intended and have QB competition again. I'm for giving Jamesis another shot. He was looking good before the injury. Still had some indecision but was getting better. I'm sure coming off of injury he will sign a cap friendly contract. It is pretty much impossible to grade any QB's from 2021 season with the all the missing pieces for most of the season. Here's to a healthier 2022. saintfan, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.

01-12-2022, 06:57 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by Thirty3 Go back and watch the whole season again and tell me you wouldn't rather any quarterback on our team more than Winston. I would rather have Winston than ANY other QB that the Saints had on their roster this season. He is BY FAR the best QB on the team. PERIOD. All my opinion of course. saintfan, RailBoss, Rugby Saint II and 4 others like this.

01-12-2022, 08:47 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,120	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by Boston Saint I would rather have Winston than ANY other QB that the Saints had on their roster this season. He is BY FAR the best QB on the team. PERIOD. All my opinion of course. I’m so confused as to how anybody could see it any other way. RailBoss, Rsanders24, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.

01-13-2022, 08:23 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by rezburna I’m so confused as to how anybody could see it any other way. Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps? Rsanders24, rezburna and Thirty3 like this.

01-13-2022, 09:28 AM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,441 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps? Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet. It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me. jnormand, Rsanders24, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.
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01-13-2022, 09:33 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by iceshack149 Knowing you, you're certainly alluding to race but many here didn't like his behavior off the field a few years ago, which was pretty awful. I feel that he's matured the last couple of years and it appears that he's a leader in the Saints locker room. Also, I can't judge a man when I've been guilty of poor behavior in my past. Good for him for striving to improve his life in every facet. It's my opinion that he's the Saints best option at QB next season. I hope that the team doesn't try to bring in Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and the QB's in this draft don't impress me. Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling. rezburna likes this.

01-13-2022, 10:30 AM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Wasn't alluding to anything specifically. I'm sure his distant past is involved as you pointed out, however. I just know several fans, as Rez addressed, don't seem to see what we see. I see that take all the time in the Saints Twitter following. It's baffling. The why don't you elaborate on your bull** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little ? You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ed up for faking that kind of , and rightfully so. You sick little race-baiting **er...