Season Wrapup

Rsanders24 · 01-09-2022, 08:50 PM

We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go.

Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role.

hitta · 01-11-2022, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go.

Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role.

I would rather pay a few extra bucks for Marcus Williams than get PJ at a slight discount.

Also we weren't playing with the same players with Jameis, that's just wrong. Our O-line sustained substantial issues. The QBs had infinitely more pressure from the middle of the season onward than they did at the beginning. Jameis never has impressed me, and I feel like if he was the QB at the latter half of the year he would have been throwing INTs all over the place.

saintfan · 01-11-2022, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I would rather pay a few extra bucks for Marcus Williams than get PJ at a slight discount.

Also we weren't playing with the same players with Jameis, that's just wrong. Our O-line sustained substantial issues. The QBs had infinitely more pressure from the middle of the season onward than they did at the beginning. Jameis never has impressed me, and I feel like if he was the QB at the latter half of the year he would have been throwing INTs all over the place.

Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him.

Rugby Saint II · 01-12-2022, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him.

I was not a Winston fan but I think he did well enough and deserves another shot. It's obvious that he was doing all the right things before his injury. Too bad. I'd like to have seen more of him to see how his development was going after a full year. Payton is truly the QB whisperer.

hitta · 01-13-2022, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him.

He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.

saintfan · 01-13-2022, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.

That's true. But still our WRs just weren't getting open with any consistency.

It felt, to me, like we were about to open things up a little bit when Jameis got hurt. I love Taysom. I would support him as the starter, but I think Jameis is already where Hill would aspire to be, meaning reads, game management, etc.

Boston Saint · 01-13-2022, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect.

But even with the Indecision he had a very good touchdown and interception numbers, as well as team W-L record. Was he Brees?...No. Was he better than Hill?....I think so.

rezburna · 01-13-2022, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps?

I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65.

Originally Posted by saintfan

The why don't you elaborate on your bull**** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little ?

You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ****ed up for faking that kind of ****, and rightfully so.

You sick little race-baiting ****er...

Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool.

AsylumGuido · 01-13-2022, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65.

Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool.

It's cool, Rez. I blocked him some time ago. Seems to have gone a bit whacko.

iceshack149 · 01-14-2022, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65.

Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool.

Guido not cool.

He picks fights with many posters and tries to bully people because he's the neighborhood brat. I'm glad that saintfan has chosen to push back and I hope that Guido either behaves in a more collegial manner or returns to that other fan site where his behavior seems to be encouraged.

01-09-2022, 08:50 PM	#1
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Season Wrapup We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go. Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role. leilung and SmashMouth like this.

01-11-2022, 09:58 PM	#2
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,333	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by Rsanders24 We have to sign one of the Williams…if we can’t get Marcus then we have to resign PJ. I hope we can get both back and save some money by letting Jenkins go. Everyone forgets that Jameis played with the same players as Hill and was flat out the better QB. Our offense is better with Hill playing his Swiss Army knife role. I would rather pay a few extra bucks for Marcus Williams than get PJ at a slight discount. Also we weren't playing with the same players with Jameis, that's just wrong. Our O-line sustained substantial issues. The QBs had infinitely more pressure from the middle of the season onward than they did at the beginning. Jameis never has impressed me, and I feel like if he was the QB at the latter half of the year he would have been throwing INTs all over the place.
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01-11-2022, 10:05 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by hitta I would rather pay a few extra bucks for Marcus Williams than get PJ at a slight discount. Also we weren't playing with the same players with Jameis, that's just wrong. Our O-line sustained substantial issues. The QBs had infinitely more pressure from the middle of the season onward than they did at the beginning. Jameis never has impressed me, and I feel like if he was the QB at the latter half of the year he would have been throwing INTs all over the place. Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him. RailBoss, Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and 3 others like this.
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01-12-2022, 09:08 AM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by saintfan Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him. I was not a Winston fan but I think he did well enough and deserves another shot. It's obvious that he was doing all the right things before his injury. Too bad. I'd like to have seen more of him to see how his development was going after a full year. Payton is truly the QB whisperer.

01-13-2022, 11:23 AM	#5
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,333	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by saintfan Thing is Jameis was playing smart IMO and doing all asked of him. His TD/INT ratio was excellent. I'm not sure what the team will do of course, but I wouldn't hate it if we gave him another shot at it with a real team around him. He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect. saintfan, jnormand, Thirty3 and 1 others like this.
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01-13-2022, 11:31 AM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by hitta He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect. That's true. But still our WRs just weren't getting open with any consistency. It felt, to me, like we were about to open things up a little bit when Jameis got hurt. I love Taysom. I would support him as the starter, but I think Jameis is already where Hill would aspire to be, meaning reads, game management, etc. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.

01-13-2022, 11:52 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by hitta He wasn't getting pressured on every play like Hill and SIemian were. When we had a stable line, the offense still felt lackadaisical under Winston. When the line was a bit better towards the end of the season Hill just felt like he was more explosive in every aspect. But even with the Indecision he had a very good touchdown and interception numbers, as well as team W-L record. Was he Brees?...No. Was he better than Hill?....I think so. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

01-13-2022, 07:21 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,022	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Other factors other than leadership, ability, and performance, perhaps? I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65. Originally Posted by saintfan The why don't you elaborate on your bull** statement? What factors "other than leadership" WERE you referring to little ? You're the white guy walking in to a black panthers meeting offering to help. In the real world (not the interweb on your puter) you could get really ed up for faking that kind of , and rightfully so. You sick little race-baiting **er... Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool. Rsanders24 and Rell&Gold like this.

01-13-2022, 10:07 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by rezburna I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65. Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool. It's cool, Rez. I blocked him some time ago. Seems to have gone a bit whacko.

01-14-2022, 03:52 PM	#10
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Season Wrapup Originally Posted by rezburna I definitely think it’s personal feelings more than an assessment of his play. Jameis Winston is by and large a better QB than everybody on our roster. If I had to give him a Madden rating I’d say he’s an 85. Taysom Hill is like a 72 only because he can run. Trevor is about a 72 as well. Book…65. Don’t be like that fam. Guido cool. Guido not cool. He picks fights with many posters and tries to bully people because he's the neighborhood brat. I'm glad that saintfan has chosen to push back and I hope that Guido either behaves in a more collegial manner or returns to that other fan site where his behavior seems to be encouraged. jnormand, mapcow, frydaddy and 1 others like this.