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jeanpierre 02-16-2022 06:52 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - Offseason

OFFENSE

QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill, 16 - Ian Book, 6 – Blake Bortles (RFC 2022)

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 21 - Tony Jones Jr., 00 - Josh Adams (RFC 2022)

FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice, 45 – Garrett Griffin (RFC 2022)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022), 00 - Kirk Merritt (RFC 2022)

WR-S (2) 1 - Marquez Callaway, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFA 2022)

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 68 - Cohl Cabral (RFC 2022)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022)

RT (1) 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (RFC 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 77 - Jalen Dalton (ERFA 2022)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 52 – Braxton Hoyett (RFC 2022)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Sharif Finch (RFC 2022)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 35 - KeiVarae Russell (RFC 2022)

FS (2) 48 - J.T. Gray

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 21 - Bradley Roby, 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 6 - Brett Maher (RFA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 65; Offense: 33; Defense: 28; Kicking: 4

Reserve/Injured

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2022)

Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022)

Waivers (Wv 2022)

Practice Squad (PS 2022)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return


Note: RFAs and ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints currently hold contractual rights to those players so they're being counted against the player cap until signed away.

jeanpierre 02-18-2022 05:31 PM

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NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: S P.J. WILLIAMS

PFF Grade change from 2020 to 2021: 40.5 → 70.0 (+29.5)

Williams only started a handful of games in 2021 and was mostly brought in off the bench. Still, there’s no denying he was significantly better than any other point in his career. It was the first season of his career that he didn’t play a significant amount of his snaps at cornerback. He proceeded to produce a career-high PFF grade.

jeanpierre 02-19-2022 12:15 PM

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jeanpierre 02-19-2022 01:26 PM

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jeanpierre 02-19-2022 03:25 PM

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K Major 02-19-2022 03:46 PM

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98 - Payton Turner

“Redshirt” season is over. It’s time to show your worth as a former 1st rounder.

Cam J, Demario, MJ Jenkins are go to guys for strength and conditioning tips.

jeanpierre 02-19-2022 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945322)
98 - Payton Turner

“Redshirt” season is over. It’s time to show your worth as a former 1st rounder.

Cam J, Demario, MJ Jenkins are go to guys for strength and conditioning tips.

Payton Turner looked pretty good, showed a lot of action, movement; just got to heal up, get stronger...

Still like the pick...

jeanpierre 02-20-2022 10:07 PM

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Sure wish we could find a way to afford to keep Kwon Alexander who likely played his way out of here like PJ Williams...

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 09:22 AM

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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 09:51 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 09:58 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 10:23 AM

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K Major 02-21-2022 10:37 AM

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Go get 2 SOLID free agent Wr's to compete.

We've tried the Lacrosse guy, Kenny Stills doesn't want it anymore & a former 1st rounder with stone hands. At least he's good on special teams but we need more route runners.

Re-signing Deonte is a no-brainer.

Oh, and draft one as well.

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 10:46 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - Offseason

OFFENSE

QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill, 16 - Ian Book, 6 – Blake Bortles (RFC 2022)

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 21 - Tony Jones Jr., 00 - Josh Adams (RFC 2022)

FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice, 45 – Garrett Griffin (RFC 2022)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022), 00 - Kirk Merritt (RFC 2022)

WR-S (2) 1 - Marquez Callaway, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFA 2022)

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 68 - Cohl Cabral (RFC 2022)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022)

RT (1) 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (RFC 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 77 - Jalen Dalton (ERFA 2022)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 52 – Braxton Hoyett (RFC 2022)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Sharif Finch (RFC 2022)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 35 - KeiVarae Russell (RFC 2022)

FS (2) 48 - J.T. Gray

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 21 - Bradley Roby, 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 6 - Brett Maher (RFA 2021)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 65; Offense: 33; Defense: 28; Kicking: 4

Reserve/Injured

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2022)

Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022)

Waivers (Wv 2022)

Practice Squad (PS 2022)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return


Note: RFAs and ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints currently hold contractual rights to those players so they're being counted against the player cap until signed away.

Crusader 02-21-2022 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945398)

If he could get Kevin White to finally play up to his potential our WR group would be a lot better in an instand. I don't see that as being very likely thou but one can hope.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 945440)
If he could get Kevin White to finally play up to his potential our WR group would be a lot better in an instand. I don't see that as being very likely thou but one can hope.

That's a good point on White. They did give him a reserve/futures contract so they must still have some faith.

K Major 02-21-2022 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945451)
That's a good point on White. They did give him a reserve/futures contract so they must still have some faith.

Very little.

Honestly, I have more faith in Easop Winston Jr. In spot duty, I thought he did a good job subbing for Deonte' on s/t & has good hands.

Definitely a guy I hope the Saints continue to develop.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945457)
Very little.

Honestly, I have more faith in Easop Winston Jr. In spot duty, I thought he did a good job subbing for Deonte' on s/t & has good hands.

Definitely a guy I hope the Saints continue to develop.

I guess it's one last throw against the wall for White to see if he sticks.

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945457)
Very little.

Honestly, I have more faith in Easop Winston Jr. In spot duty, I thought he did a good job subbing for Deonte' on s/t & has good hands.

Definitely a guy I hope the Saints continue to develop.

For me it's Kawaan Baker that I'd like to see step up, especially with a draft pick invested...

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 945440)
If he could get Kevin White to finally play up to his potential our WR group would be a lot better in an instand. I don't see that as being very likely thou but one can hope.

Physical, elite talent is still there; seems to be he needs to get his confidence back, head straight...

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 08:32 PM

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - Offseason

OFFENSE

QB (3) 7 - Taysom Hill, 16 - Ian Book, 6 – Blake Bortles (RFC 2022)

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 21 - Tony Jones Jr., 00 - Josh Adams (RFC 2022)

FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice, 45 – Garrett Griffin (RFC 2022)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022), 00 - Kirk Merritt (RFC 2022)

WR-S (2) 1 - Marquez Callaway, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (RFA 2022)

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 68 - Cohl Cabral (RFC 2022)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022)

RT (1) 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 89 - Dylan Soehner, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Ethan Wolf (RFC 2022)

WR-Z (2) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 17 - Jalen McCleskey (RFC 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 77 - Jalen Dalton (ERFA 2022)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 52 – Braxton Hoyett (RFC 2022)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon

WLB (2) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun

MLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 50 - Andrew Dowell

SLB (2) 55 - Kaden Elliss, 59 - Sharif Finch (RFC 2022)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 25 - Ken Crawley, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 35 - KeiVarae Russell (RFC 2022)

FS (2) 48 - J.T. Gray

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins, 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 21 - Bradley Roby, 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022)


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)


90-man Roster Count - Total: 64; Offense: 33; Defense: 28; Kicking: 6

Reserve/Injured

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2022)

Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022)

Waivers (Wv 2022)

Practice Squad (PS 2022)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:
  • *OUT - Out/Left Game

  • *INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive

  • *PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad

  • *LP - Limited Practice

  • *DNP - Did Not Practice

  • *CP - Concussion Protocol

  • *DTR - Designated To Return


Note: RFAs and ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints currently hold contractual rights to those players so they're being counted against the player cap until signed away.

AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 09:13 AM

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Not that I expected the franchise tag on Armstead, but this is interesting.


saintfan 02-22-2022 09:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945491)
Not that I expected the franchise tag on Armstead, but this is interesting.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...40035829243912

Its actually not very interesting but you got your name, racist as it is, on the board again. :rolleyes:

MatthewT 02-22-2022 09:28 AM

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Going to be very interesting to see what is done at QB. As it stands right now, Blake Bortles is likely the opening day starter. Let that sink in for a while...

K Major 02-22-2022 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 945494)
Going to be very interesting to see what is done at QB. As it stands right now, Blake Bortles is likely the opening day starter. Let that sink in for a while...

If Bortles is the opening day starter in New Orleans for 2022, it tells me Dennis Allen learned nothing from being an HC in Oakland.

Blake is a 3rd tier NFL QB all day, every day.

Saints would bring back Teddy B before they allow Blake to start @ QB.

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945507)
If Bortles is the opening day starter in New Orleans for 2022, it tells me Dennis Allen learned nothing from being an HC in Oakland.

Blake is a 3rd tier NFL QB all day, every day.

Saints would bring back Teddy B before they allow Blake to start @ QB.

He may not have a market develop for him and that would be exactly what could happen...

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 04:35 PM

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Also need to monitor Taysom's health this summer...

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 04:59 PM

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Good news on the Lutz front?


AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945557)

Good for them. This gives Maher a better shot of getting a gig elsewhere cutting him before the year is up.

halloween 65 02-22-2022 05:29 PM

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I thought Maher did a good job.

K Major 02-22-2022 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945561)
I thought Maher did a good job.

Agreed. I hope the Saints keep Maher around as long as possible.

Lutz is coming off a serious injury & subsequent surgery.

No one knows for sure if he'll ever be the same kicker. A groin injury on a kicker ? ... boy o boy. who knows how long that muscle will take before it's completely healed.

Take your time Will.

K Major 02-22-2022 05:43 PM

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*** Edit

Maher has been waived :( .. as of today 2/22/22.

At least it's EARLY and he can latch on to a team rather quickly.

AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945565)
*** Edit

Maher has been waived :( .. as of today 2/22/22.

At least it's EARLY and he can latch on to a team rather quickly.

Yup. The Saints did him good letting him go early.

saintfan 02-22-2022 06:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945565)
*** Edit

Maher has been waived :( .. as of today 2/22/22.

At least it's EARLY and he can latch on to a team rather quickly.

I hope they have him on speed dial - in the event he doesn't get picked up elsewhere. I'm not sure I can stomach another kicking carousel.

halloween 65 02-22-2022 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945563)
Agreed. I hope the Saints keep Maher around as long as possible.

Lutz is coming off a serious injury & subsequent surgery.

No one knows for sure if he'll ever be the same kicker. A groin injury on a kicker ? ... boy o boy. who knows how long that muscle will take before it's completely healed.

Take your time Will.

Good question about Lutz though.

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 11:49 AM

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K Major 02-23-2022 01:00 PM

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21 - Bradley Roby

Any chance he returns? That salary is quite steep.

I know the NFL is a business, but I'd like to keep as much of the defense intact as possible. They were deep playoff contention good.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945620)
21 - Bradley Roby

Any chance he returns? That salary is quite steep.

I know the NFL is a business, but I'd like to keep as much of the defense intact as possible. They were deep playoff contention good.

Bradley is the only player on the roster that has a significant salary that would not result in a dead money hit if released. Savings would be an even $10 million against the 2022 cap. The success of Adebo makes him expendable. I'd be surprised if we keep him as a part time player for that amount.

An extension/restructure is the other option, but once again for a part time player?

K Major 02-23-2022 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945621)
Bradley is the only player on the roster that has a significant salary that would not result in a dead money hit if released. Savings would be an even $10 million against the 2022 cap. The success of Adebo makes him expendable. I'd be surprised if we keep him as a part time player for that amount.

An extension/restructure is the other option, but once again for a part time player?

I got you but the NFL is a 17 game grind.

God forbid Latt or Adebo gets injured/hurt ... then what?

And I do believe Roby is gone. As well as PJ played in 2021, we could lose (free agent) him as well.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945622)
I got you but the NFL is a 17 game grind.

God forbid Latt or Adebo gets injured/hurt ... then what?

And I do believe Roby is gone. As well as PJ played in 2021, we could lose (free agent) him as well.

Yeah. We definitely need the depth. I wish we could keep him, but out of the entire roster he is the most likely to be released due to financial constraints alone. We really don't need to cut anyone else for cap saving purposes. Simple restructures will buy us $101 million in cap without letting anyone go.


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