2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

AsylumGuido · 06-22-2022, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Based on last year's production (or lack thereof), I have him at a 6.

Not a good look when two undrafted guys are making plays and you aren't. Definitely not trying to knock on Trequan, but based on where he was drafted that's unacceptable.

Hard to compare based upon what we had under center and on the offensive line last year. None of our receivers had over 46 receptions. Tre'Quan only played in eleven games, two fewer that Harty. His catch percentage (64%), while not that great, was better than both Harty (61%) and Callaway (54.8%). He also scored as many TD's (3) as Harty on fewer targets. Last season was a total anomaly across the board on offense. Hard to glean much useful from the constant rotation of bodies game to game.

K Major · 06-22-2022, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hard to compare based upon what we had under center and on the offensive line last year. None of our receivers had over 46 receptions. Tre'Quan only played in eleven games, two fewer that Harty. His catch percentage (64%), while not that great, was better than both Harty (61%) and Callaway (54.8%). He also scored as many TD's (3) as Harty on fewer targets. Last season was a total anomaly across the board on offense. Hard to glean much useful from the constant rotation of bodies game to game.

For a player who has been in the Saints system for 4 years now ...

Excuses.

Spin it as you like though.

AsylumGuido · 06-22-2022, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

For a player who has been in the Saints system for 4 years now ...

Excuses.

Spin it as you like though.

Do you not agree that this past season was a jumbled mess with the turnstile at every position? Sure, I can see judging him and the others based on earlier years' performances, but what happened in 2021 with the entire team wasn't an excuse. It was a reason. Reasons are real while excuses are contrived. Or in other words ... Excuse is a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence. Reason is an explanation, cause or basis for something.

AsylumGuido · 06-22-2022, 12:32 PM

Our QB's were seldom given a chance to properly negotiate their progressions last year. Tre'Quan missed the first five games last season when our best QB, Winston, was running the show. Most of his season came with Siemian, Book, and Hill running for their lives. That is a fact, a truism. None of the receivers performed well over that stretch because the QB's could not get them the ball. I saw wide open receivers with the QB's dumping the ball to others that were covered on a consistent basis. It was ugly. 2021 game film needs to be thrown away or burned because it is meaningless.

saintsfan1976 · 06-22-2022, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you not agree that this past season was a jumbled mess with the turnstile at every position? Sure, I can see judging him and the others based on earlier years' performances, but what happened in 2021 with the entire team wasn't an excuse. It was a reason. Reasons are real while excuses are contrived. Or in other words ... Excuse is a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence. Reason is an explanation, cause or basis for something.

We're looking at his body of work. 2021 does not factor for almost any Saints player.

AsylumGuido · 06-22-2022, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We're looking at his body of work. 2021 does not factor for almost any Saints player.

I agree completely. That was exactly the point I was hoping to get across.

06-22-2022, 11:29 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Based on last year's production (or lack thereof), I have him at a 6. Not a good look when two undrafted guys are making plays and you aren't. Definitely not trying to knock on Trequan, but based on where he was drafted that's unacceptable. Hard to compare based upon what we had under center and on the offensive line last year. None of our receivers had over 46 receptions. Tre'Quan only played in eleven games, two fewer that Harty. His catch percentage (64%), while not that great, was better than both Harty (61%) and Callaway (54.8%). He also scored as many TD's (3) as Harty on fewer targets. Last season was a total anomaly across the board on offense. Hard to glean much useful from the constant rotation of bodies game to game.

06-22-2022, 12:04 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hard to compare based upon what we had under center and on the offensive line last year. None of our receivers had over 46 receptions. Tre'Quan only played in eleven games, two fewer that Harty. His catch percentage (64%), while not that great, was better than both Harty (61%) and Callaway (54.8%). He also scored as many TD's (3) as Harty on fewer targets. Last season was a total anomaly across the board on offense. Hard to glean much useful from the constant rotation of bodies game to game. For a player who has been in the Saints system for 4 years now ... Excuses. Spin it as you like though.

06-22-2022, 12:21 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major For a player who has been in the Saints system for 4 years now ... Excuses. Spin it as you like though. Do you not agree that this past season was a jumbled mess with the turnstile at every position? Sure, I can see judging him and the others based on earlier years' performances, but what happened in 2021 with the entire team wasn't an excuse. It was a reason. Reasons are real while excuses are contrived. Or in other words ... Excuse is a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence. Reason is an explanation, cause or basis for something.

06-22-2022, 12:32 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Our QB's were seldom given a chance to properly negotiate their progressions last year. Tre'Quan missed the first five games last season when our best QB, Winston, was running the show. Most of his season came with Siemian, Book, and Hill running for their lives. That is a fact, a truism. None of the receivers performed well over that stretch because the QB's could not get them the ball. I saw wide open receivers with the QB's dumping the ball to others that were covered on a consistent basis. It was ugly. 2021 game film needs to be thrown away or burned because it is meaningless.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

06-22-2022, 12:42 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you not agree that this past season was a jumbled mess with the turnstile at every position? Sure, I can see judging him and the others based on earlier years' performances, but what happened in 2021 with the entire team wasn't an excuse. It was a reason. Reasons are real while excuses are contrived. Or in other words ... Excuse is a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence. Reason is an explanation, cause or basis for something. We're looking at his body of work. 2021 does not factor for almost any Saints player.

06-22-2022, 12:46 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We're looking at his body of work. 2021 does not factor for almost any Saints player. I agree completely. That was exactly the point I was hoping to get across.