2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Boston Saint · 06-28-2022, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm glad the writer has a "strong feeling". We're a better team with a healthy MT. Wait and see mode for me...

In depth coverage from him right there. He also reminded us Thomas had some
great seasons in the past. Who knew ? 🙄

saintsfan1976 · 06-28-2022, 01:29 PM

I get these sites have to generate "content" but they keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means...

subguy · 06-29-2022, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I agree. Yet the Strange thing though Subguy is I actually feel pretty good with Dalton as backup and the WR corps with Olave, Landry, Callaway, and Harty and the UDFAs on the team. With the potential of the D, I still feel pretty good with those players. Maybe I’m kidding myself, but 9-8 last year with adding Olave, Juice and Dalton alone (and a healthy O line) gives me hope…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9K30e9O3Nng

Dude, I was saying the same to thing someone. Dalton may end up being key.

He is largely forgotten when talking about the Saints. He has to receive some props, he played with the crappy Bengals for years.

He most definitely needs an O-Line. Being new and losing an anchor is a tad worrisome.

mapcow · 06-29-2022, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If traded the following would apply via spotrac ...

Post June 1 Trade

2022 Dead Cap: $11,813,000
2023 Dead Cap: $25,452,000
2022 Cap Savings: $1,235,000

In other words, as Major_K pointed out to mapcow, that isn't going to happen.

sure it will... wait... watch .... and see

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2022, 09:17 AM

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Boston Saint · 06-29-2022, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/SaintsNews/statu...07631782973445

The two different viewpoints are actually measuring different things and could both be correct. Like RG3 says, having Thomas in should help Olave and Landry get open and be more productive. This will make the Off as a whole more difficult to stop and theoretically lead to more wins.

The other guy says as far as strictly fantasy numbers, giving Winston more options will inevitably lead to a decrease in production for Thomas. That doesn’t necessarily mean fewer wins for the Saints.

Rugby Saint II · 06-29-2022, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The two different viewpoints are actually measuring different things and could both be correct. Like RG3 says, having Thomas in should help Olave and Landry get open and be more productive. This will make the Onas as whole more difficult to stop and theoretically lead to more wins.

The other guy says as far as strictly fantasy numbers, giving Winston more options will inevitably lead to a decrease in production for Thomas. That doesn’t necessarily mean fewer wins for the Saints.

Both of them make decent points about his performance this year. Thomas needs to prove it. Not necessarily on a video where he's too far away to see if that's him.LOL Maybe he should get Winston's PR guy to shoot his videos.

Boston Saint · 06-29-2022, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Both of them make decent points about his performance this year. Thomas needs to prove it. Not necessarily on a video where he's too far away to see if that's him.LOL Maybe he should get Winston's PR guy to shoot his videos.

That Thomas sprint video cracks me up too Rugby. If he doesn’t want to post videos about his workouts and status then that’s fine and obviously his prerogative.

It’s also my prerogative to compare the videos of him available to the videos of Winston. Comparing those is funny to me. Not knocking the players, just smiling at the videos

jeanpierre · 06-29-2022, 11:08 PM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - OffSeason

OFFENSE

QB (3) 2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2022), 5 - Andy Dalton (FA 2022), 16 - Ian Book, 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tony Jones Jr., 33 - Abram Smith (UDFA 2022), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2022), 28 - Devine Ozigbo (FA 2022)

FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 1 - Marquez Callaway, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith (FA 2022), 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022)

WR-S (2) 00 - Jarvis Landry, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Dai'Jean Dixon (UDFA 2022), 85 - Kirk Merritt (RFC 2022)

LT (2) 70 - Trevor Penning (R1, P19), 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - Forrest Lamp (FA 2022), 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022)

C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Derek Schweiger (UDFA 2022), 68 - Josh Andrews (FA 2022)

RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton, 66 - Lewis Kidd (UDFA 2022)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Sage Doxtater (UDFA 2022), 65 - Khalique Washington (UDFA 2022)

TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Brandon Dillon (FA 2022), 88 - J.P. Holtz (FA 2022), 44 - Lucas Krull (UDFA 2022)

WR-Z (2) 12 - Chris Olave (R1, P11), 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022), 89 - Rashid Shaheed (UDFA 2022)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022)

NT (2) 99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 91 - Jaleel Johnson (FA 2022), 57 - Josh Black (UDFA 2022)

DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 69 - Kentavius Street (FA 2022), 59 - Jordan Jackson (R6, P194)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 54 - Taco Charlton (FA 2022)

OLB (3) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun, 52 - D'Marco Jackson (R5, P11), 45 - Nephi Sewell (UDFA 2022)

MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell, 50 - Eric Wilson (UDFA 2022), 42 - Isaiah Pryor (UDFA 2022)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Bradley Roby, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022), 39 - DeMarcus Fields (UDFA 2022)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2022), 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022)

FS (2) 00 - Tyrann Mathieu (FA 2022), 48 - J.T. Gray, 25 - Daniel Sorensen (FA 2022)

SS (2) 6 - Marcus Maye (FA 2022), 30 - Justin Evans (FA 2022), 38 - Smoke Monday (UDFA 2022)

LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 27 - Alontae Taylor (R2, P49), 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022), 35 - Vincent Gray (UDFA 2022)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 15 - John Parker Romo (UDFA 2022)

P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 19 - Daniel Whelan (UDFA 2022)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)

90-man Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Retired

27 - Malcolm Jenkins

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2022)

Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022)

Waivers (Wv 2022)

Practice Squad (PS 2022)

Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)

Reserve/Retired

Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner

STATUS:

*OUT - Out/Left Game
*INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive
*PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad
*LP - Limited Practice
*DNP - Did Not Practice
*CP - Concussion Protocol
*DTR - Designated To Return

Note: RFAs/ERFAs are not technically under contract, but the Saints hold contractual rights to those players so they're being listed.

They are not being counted against the player cap while their *TENDERED offer from the Saints remains un-signed.

SmashMouth · 06-30-2022, 09:48 AM

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06-28-2022, 12:42 PM	#1051
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm glad the writer has a "strong feeling". We're a better team with a healthy MT. Wait and see mode for me... In depth coverage from him right there. He also reminded us Thomas had some great seasons in the past. Who knew ? 🙄

06-28-2022, 01:29 PM	#1052
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas Progress I get these sites have to generate "content" but they keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means... Boston Saint likes this.

06-29-2022, 07:12 AM	#1053
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Boston Saint I agree. Yet the Strange thing though Subguy is I actually feel pretty good with Dalton as backup and the WR corps with Olave, Landry, Callaway, and Harty and the UDFAs on the team. With the potential of the D, I still feel pretty good with those players. Maybe I’m kidding myself, but 9-8 last year with adding Olave, Juice and Dalton alone (and a healthy O line) gives me hope… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9K30e9O3Nng Dude, I was saying the same to thing someone. Dalton may end up being key. He is largely forgotten when talking about the Saints. He has to receive some props, he played with the crappy Bengals for years. He most definitely needs an O-Line. Being new and losing an anchor is a tad worrisome. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

06-29-2022, 08:26 AM	#1054
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,749	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If traded the following would apply via spotrac ... Post June 1 Trade 2022 Dead Cap: $11,813,000 2023 Dead Cap: $25,452,000 2022 Cap Savings: $1,235,000 In other words, as Major_K pointed out to mapcow, that isn't going to happen. sure it will... wait... watch .... and see
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06-29-2022, 09:17 AM	#1055
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06-29-2022, 10:46 AM	#1056
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/SaintsNews/statu...07631782973445 The two different viewpoints are actually measuring different things and could both be correct. Like RG3 says, having Thomas in should help Olave and Landry get open and be more productive. This will make the Off as a whole more difficult to stop and theoretically lead to more wins. The other guy says as far as strictly fantasy numbers, giving Winston more options will inevitably lead to a decrease in production for Thomas. That doesn’t necessarily mean fewer wins for the Saints. Rugby Saint II and stickman like this.

06-29-2022, 12:13 PM	#1057
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,044	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Boston Saint The two different viewpoints are actually measuring different things and could both be correct. Like RG3 says, having Thomas in should help Olave and Landry get open and be more productive. This will make the Onas as whole more difficult to stop and theoretically lead to more wins. The other guy says as far as strictly fantasy numbers, giving Winston more options will inevitably lead to a decrease in production for Thomas. That doesn’t necessarily mean fewer wins for the Saints. Both of them make decent points about his performance this year. Thomas needs to prove it. Not necessarily on a video where he's too far away to see if that's him.LOL Maybe he should get Winston's PR guy to shoot his videos. stickman and Boston Saint like this.

06-29-2022, 12:23 PM	#1058
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Both of them make decent points about his performance this year. Thomas needs to prove it. Not necessarily on a video where he's too far away to see if that's him.LOL Maybe he should get Winston's PR guy to shoot his videos. That Thomas sprint video cracks me up too Rugby. If he doesn’t want to post videos about his workouts and status then that’s fine and obviously his prerogative. It’s also my prerogative to compare the videos of him available to the videos of Winston. Comparing those is funny to me. Not knocking the players, just smiling at the videos SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

06-29-2022, 11:08 PM	#1059
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2022 New Orleans Saints - OffSeason OFFENSE QB (3) *2 - Jameis Winston (FA 2022), 5 - Andy Dalton (FA 2022), 16 - Ian Book, 7 - Taysom Hill RB (4) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 14 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tony Jones Jr., 33 - Abram Smith (UDFA 2022), 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2022), 28 - Devine Ozigbo (FA 2022)* FB (1) 46 - Adam Prentice WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 1 - Marquez Callaway, 10 - Tre'Quan Smith (FA 2022), 17 - Kevin White (RFC 2022) WR-S (2) *00 - Jarvis Landry, 80 - Kawaan Baker (RFC 2022), 84 - Dai'Jean Dixon (UDFA 2022), 85 - Kirk Merritt (RFC 2022)* LT (2) 70 - Trevor Penning (R1, P19), 74 - James Hurst, 67 - Landon Young, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (RFA 2022) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - Forrest Lamp (FA 2022), 63 - Jerald Hawkins (RFC 2022) C (1) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Derek Schweiger (UDFA 2022), 68 - Josh Andrews (FA 2022) RG (1) 51 - Cesar Ruiz, 76 - Calvin Throckmorton, 66 - Lewis Kidd (UDFA 2022) RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Sage Doxtater (UDFA 2022), 65 - Khalique Washington (UDFA 2022) TE (3) 82 - Adam Trautman, 81 - Nick Vannett, 83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021), 86 - Brandon Dillon (FA 2022), 88 - J.P. Holtz (FA 2022), 44 - Lucas Krull (UDFA 2022) WR-Z (2) 12 - Chris Olave (R1, P11), 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022), 18 - Easop Winston (RFC 2022), 89 - Rashid Shaheed (UDFA 2022) DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 98 - Payton Turner, 96 - Carl Granderson (ERFA 2022) NT (2) *99 - Shy Tuttle (RFA 2022), 95 - Albert Huggins (ERFA 2022), 91 - Jaleel Johnson (FA 2022), 57 - Josh Black (UDFA 2022)* DT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Malcolm Roach (RFC 2022), 69 - Kentavius Street (FA 2022), 59 - Jordan Jackson (R6, P194) LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 90 - Tanoh Kpassagnon, 54 - Taco Charlton (FA 2022) OLB (3) 20 - Pete Werner, 53 - Zach Baun, 52 - D'Marco Jackson (R5, P11), 45 - Nephi Sewell (UDFA 2022) MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 50 - Andrew Dowell, 50 - Eric Wilson (UDFA 2022), 42 - Isaiah Pryor (UDFA 2022) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Bradley Roby, 37 – Dylan Maybin (RFC 2022), 39 - DeMarcus Fields (UDFA 2022) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2022), 31 - Bryce Thompson (RFC 2022) FS (2) *00 - Tyrann Mathieu (FA 2022), 48 - J.T. Gray, 25 - Daniel Sorensen (FA 2022)* SS (2) *6 - Marcus Maye (FA 2022), 30 - Justin Evans (FA 2022), 38 - Smoke Monday (UDFA 2022)* LCB (2) 29 - Paulson Adebo, 27 - Alontae Taylor (R2, P49), 36 - Jordan Miller (RFC 2022), 35 - Vincent Gray (UDFA 2022) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz, 15 - John Parker Romo (UDFA 2022) P (1) 4 - Blake Gillikin, 19 - Daniel Whelan (UDFA 2022) LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood RS () 11 - Deonte Harty (RFA 2022)* 90-man Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5 Reserve/Injured Reserve/Retired 27 - Malcolm Jenkins KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2022) Restricted Free Agent (RFA 2022) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2022) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2022) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2022) Waivers (Wv 2022) Practice Squad (PS 2022) Reserve/Injured (NFI), Reserve/Non-Football Injury (NFI), Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) Reserve/Retired Reserve/Suspended By Commissioner STATUS: OUT - Out/Left Game INACTIVE - Healthy Inactive PSACTIVE - Activated From Practice Squad LP - Limited Practice DNP - Did Not Practice CP - Concussion Protocol DTR - Designated To Return Note: RFAs/ERFAs* are not technically under contract, but the Saints hold contractual rights to those players so they're being listed. They are not being counted against the player cap while their TENDERED offer from the Saints remains un-signed*. SmashMouth likes this.
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06-30-2022, 09:48 AM	#1060
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