Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away

rezburna · 01-31-2022, 07:08 PM

I agree for the most part. I’m just ready to get a new coach and move on. With change comes doubt, but also new hope.

Boston Saint · 01-31-2022, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I agree for the most part. I’m just ready to get a new coach and move on. With change comes doubt, but also new hope.

Excellent thoughts rez! Way to keep things in perspective.

BakoSaint · 02-01-2022, 01:14 AM

I would not be so surprised if Payton took the path of Gruden, Madden, etc stayed in a cushy broadcasting gig for a lot longer than just a year.

Maybe Payton saw the deck was stacked against him. Not only did he lose his qb, the team was way over the cap and even if they could retain everyone, there would be no cap left to add missing pieces. He did not want to go through a rebuild and the team cant win without one. Maybe the perfect job will come next year and he will take it, or maybe there wont be the right opening and he will find that the comfortable hours of broadcasting allow him to get back in shape, travel, enjoy time with family, and he does not want to give it up to be Goodells punching bag. If he does go back go coaching, maybe he will pick a big market with a powerful owner who Goodell cannot mess with, such as Dallas or New England.

saintsfan1976 · 02-01-2022, 04:24 AM

Plus he has mad money.

He signed a five-year $37.5 million extension in 2011, which was voided by the NFL in 2012. On December 29, 2012, he signed another five-year $40 million deal. On March 23, 2016, he re-upped for five years worth $42.5 million. His latest contract extension was in 2019 worth $45 million for five years.

Saintsfan4ever · 02-01-2022, 07:42 AM

If the original point of this thread is for me to consider being mad at Sean Payton for "quitting"... well, nope, sorry I can't be mad a Sean.
Please tell me at what future point or what scenario would be a "good place" for Sean to (as you say) "quit"? At death?
Sean could've said "Next!" and quit after the SB win. He could've quit after being suspended. He could've quit when Brees "quit". But he didn't. He stayed for 16 seasons. And I can't be mad at him for that.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2022, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Plus he has mad money.

He signed a five-year $37.5 million extension in 2011, which was voided by the NFL in 2012. On December 29, 2012, he signed another five-year $40 million deal. On March 23, 2016, he re-upped for five years worth $42.5 million. His latest contract extension was in 2019 worth $45 million for five years.

He'll keep getting mad money at Fox or wherever. Aikman was getting $8 million per year there. Add in promotional money and Payton can be earning well north of $10 million per year working a fraction of the hours. Of course, he will no longer be collecting on that Saints contract I believe. If fired he would. Quitting should preclude him from salary, but keep him bound through the contract term.

AsylumGuido · 02-01-2022, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would not be so surprised if Payton took the path of Gruden, Madden, etc stayed in a cushy broadcasting gig for a lot longer than just a year.

Maybe Payton saw the deck was stacked against him. Not only did he lose his qb, the team was way over the cap and even if they could retain everyone, there would be no cap left to add missing pieces. He did not want to go through a rebuild and the team cant win without one. Maybe the perfect job will come next year and he will take it, or maybe there wont be the right opening and he will find that the comfortable hours of broadcasting allow him to get back in shape, travel, enjoy time with family, and he does not want to give it up to be Goodells punching bag. If he does go back go coaching, maybe he will pick a big market with a powerful owner who Goodell cannot mess with, such as Dallas or New England.

In his interview with Dan Patrick last week Payton acknowledged that any TV gig would have to be a multi-year commitment. Patrick had pointed out that Romo's broadcast partner, Jim Nantz, said that their last game was their best ever and that it takes years to get to that point. That's when Payton agreed and said he's ready to give it that commitment.

mapcow · 02-01-2022, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Kinda like the ridiculous crap you post as if you're some kind of insider...

Ironic that you attack these professionals for their thoughts and opinions and broadcast yours and challenge anyone who disagrees?

If the writer is a "blowhard", how you YOU self-describe?

Here's your bio:

"Idiot, race-baiter, turd, know-it-all, NPD, professional *******, weak-minded, distant relative of nobody who matters"

Dont forget rumor starter.... you know.... Russell Wilson had food poisoning and was leaving the Seahawks.... remember. And Thomas aint going anywhere...and on and on.....

neugey · 02-01-2022, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He'll keep getting mad money at Fox or wherever. Aikman was getting $8 million per year there. Add in promotional money and Payton can be earning well north of $10 million per year working a fraction of the hours. Of course, he will no longer be collecting on that Saints contract I believe. If fired he would. Quitting should preclude him from salary, but keep him bound through the contract term.

I can't believe Aikman is getting 8 million to make me fall asleep on the couch ... what a gig!

TheOak · 02-02-2022, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit.

Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit?

He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP!

Sean Payton is the only person to blame for what was not behind Drew Brees. Sean Payton did get tired, he got tired of the ***king leagues BS. His stepping down from the competition committee recently speaks to how much the direction the league is going does not align with the game that he wants to coach.

You can go yell in a mirror as you will not get support for your vitriol from me.

01-31-2022, 07:08 PM	#51
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,680	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away I agree for the most part. I’m just ready to get a new coach and move on. With change comes doubt, but also new hope. saintfan, saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.

01-31-2022, 07:22 PM	#52
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by rezburna I agree for the most part. I’m just ready to get a new coach and move on. With change comes doubt, but also new hope. Excellent thoughts rez! Way to keep things in perspective. SmashMouth and rezburna like this.

02-01-2022, 01:14 AM	#53
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,770	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away I would not be so surprised if Payton took the path of Gruden, Madden, etc stayed in a cushy broadcasting gig for a lot longer than just a year. Maybe Payton saw the deck was stacked against him. Not only did he lose his qb, the team was way over the cap and even if they could retain everyone, there would be no cap left to add missing pieces. He did not want to go through a rebuild and the team cant win without one. Maybe the perfect job will come next year and he will take it, or maybe there wont be the right opening and he will find that the comfortable hours of broadcasting allow him to get back in shape, travel, enjoy time with family, and he does not want to give it up to be Goodells punching bag. If he does go back go coaching, maybe he will pick a big market with a powerful owner who Goodell cannot mess with, such as Dallas or New England.
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02-01-2022, 04:24 AM	#54
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,552 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Plus he has mad money. He signed a five-year $37.5 million extension in 2011, which was voided by the NFL in 2012. On December 29, 2012, he signed another five-year $40 million deal. On March 23, 2016, he re-upped for five years worth $42.5 million. His latest contract extension was in 2019 worth $45 million for five years.

02-01-2022, 07:42 AM	#55
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away If the original point of this thread is for me to consider being mad at Sean Payton for "quitting"... well, nope, sorry I can't be mad a Sean. Please tell me at what future point or what scenario would be a "good place" for Sean to (as you say) "quit"? At death? Sean could've said "Next!" and quit after the SB win. He could've quit after being suspended. He could've quit when Brees "quit". But he didn't. He stayed for 16 seasons. And I can't be mad at him for that. jnormand, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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02-01-2022, 08:33 AM	#56
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,409	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Plus he has mad money. He signed a five-year $37.5 million extension in 2011, which was voided by the NFL in 2012. On December 29, 2012, he signed another five-year $40 million deal. On March 23, 2016, he re-upped for five years worth $42.5 million. His latest contract extension was in 2019 worth $45 million for five years. He'll keep getting mad money at Fox or wherever. Aikman was getting $8 million per year there. Add in promotional money and Payton can be earning well north of $10 million per year working a fraction of the hours. Of course, he will no longer be collecting on that Saints contract I believe. If fired he would. Quitting should preclude him from salary, but keep him bound through the contract term.

02-01-2022, 08:39 AM	#57
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,409	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would not be so surprised if Payton took the path of Gruden, Madden, etc stayed in a cushy broadcasting gig for a lot longer than just a year. Maybe Payton saw the deck was stacked against him. Not only did he lose his qb, the team was way over the cap and even if they could retain everyone, there would be no cap left to add missing pieces. He did not want to go through a rebuild and the team cant win without one. Maybe the perfect job will come next year and he will take it, or maybe there wont be the right opening and he will find that the comfortable hours of broadcasting allow him to get back in shape, travel, enjoy time with family, and he does not want to give it up to be Goodells punching bag. If he does go back go coaching, maybe he will pick a big market with a powerful owner who Goodell cannot mess with, such as Dallas or New England. In his interview with Dan Patrick last week Payton acknowledged that any TV gig would have to be a multi-year commitment. Patrick had pointed out that Romo's broadcast partner, Jim Nantz, said that their last game was their best ever and that it takes years to get to that point. That's when Payton agreed and said he's ready to give it that commitment.

02-01-2022, 09:35 AM	#58
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,335	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by saintfan Kinda like the ridiculous crap you post as if you're some kind of insider... Ironic that you attack these professionals for their thoughts and opinions and broadcast yours and challenge anyone who disagrees? If the writer is a "blowhard", how you YOU self-describe? Here's your bio: "Idiot, race-baiter, turd, know-it-all, NPD, professional *******, weak-minded, distant relative of nobody who matters" Dont forget rumor starter.... you know.... Russell Wilson had food poisoning and was leaving the Seahawks.... remember. And Thomas aint going anywhere...and on and on..... saintfan likes this.
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02-01-2022, 10:33 AM	#59
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He'll keep getting mad money at Fox or wherever. Aikman was getting $8 million per year there. Add in promotional money and Payton can be earning well north of $10 million per year working a fraction of the hours. Of course, he will no longer be collecting on that Saints contract I believe. If fired he would. Quitting should preclude him from salary, but keep him bound through the contract term. I can't believe Aikman is getting 8 million to make me fall asleep on the couch ... what a gig! Boston Saint likes this.

02-02-2022, 06:17 AM	#60
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by 4everSaint He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit. Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit? He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP! Sean Payton is the only person to blame for what was not behind Drew Brees. Sean Payton did get tired, he got tired of the ***king leagues BS. His stepping down from the competition committee recently speaks to how much the direction the league is going does not align with the game that he wants to coach. You can go yell in a mirror as you will not get support for your vitriol from me. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.