Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach

voodooido · 02-07-2022, 06:39 PM

Happy with this. Defense wins championships and he has built a great one.

SmashMouth · 02-07-2022, 06:50 PM

So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time?

Budsdrinker · 02-08-2022, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time?

Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC.

K Major · 02-08-2022, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC.

I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move.

And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2022, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move.

And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

Perhaps that QB is in place but we don't know it yet publicly. Bieniemy may be interested in working with Jameis. Or at least maybe they were trying to sell him on the notion. And Mrs. B does have deep pockets. And New Orleans is his home.

No telling, but it would be a coup to get him in that capacity.

hitta · 02-07-2022, 07:27 PM

Pederson hasn't done anything special at all. He one a Super Bowl with a QB a lot of confidence and hot streak who performs especially well in the clutch and then they subsequently went and got rid of him and went with their 1st round draft pick Wentz who actually got worse the longer he was on the team. Pederson was handed a SB, he didn't really earn it from my perspective. People act like he did something great but he didn't. We will be incredibly thankful we didn't get him in a couple of years when he gets fired.

As I stated before though, I'm terrified of being stuck in mediocrity. I see all these teams with great QBs and we need to find a way to put one on our team. You want to see a perfect example of why you need good QB play to get to the SB and win, just look at the Titans. The game between the Bengals really revolved around two possessions one for the Titans, the other for the Bengals. The Titans guy threw a pick, the Bengals guy threw a great pass to get his team in FG range. It's almost impossible to win in this league without good QB play. You don't even need a good offense. You can be a defensive oriented team. You just need a guy that can make that play when you need it and not **** everything up when you really don't need him to.

saintsfan1976 · 02-07-2022, 07:42 PM

Domino 1 of many. This off-season could get interesting

Saint in Aus · 02-07-2022, 08:01 PM

It's the right decision imo. Wish him the best of luck.

ChrisXVI · 02-07-2022, 08:05 PM

No disrespect to Pete Carmichael, but I hope Dennis brings in a fresh offensive mind. Pete helped Sean Payton run Sean’s offense. Let’s not run this thing with the “ghost” of Sean Payton hanging over everything.

K Major · 02-07-2022, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

No disrespect to Pete Carmichael, but I hope Dennis brings in a fresh offensive mind. Pete helped Sean Payton run Sean’s offense. Let’s not run this thing with the “ghost” of Sean Payton hanging over everything.

Not sure if you've heard Duncan's take but he believes Allen could go in a different direction at OC. No guarantee he'll roll with Pete.

As you stated, fresh/new ideas should be welcomed.

Guess we'll find out.

02-07-2022, 06:39 PM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Happy with this. Defense wins championships and he has built a great one.
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02-07-2022, 06:50 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,813 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time? jeanpierre likes this.

02-08-2022, 08:52 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by SmashMouth So what did the Saints talk about when they interviewed Bienemy for 8 hours? That's a long Interview, isn't it? Is it remotely possible he's not really HC material if he's getting passed by every time? Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and shawnkytonk like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Bienemy's contract is up in KC. Maybe we were trying to sell him on the OC job as well. Rumor has it Carmichael will be promoted to assistant Head coach and not OC. I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move. And with no QB in place for New Orleans.

02-08-2022, 09:22 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by K Major I’d be very surprised if Eric is even remotely interested in a lateral move. And with no QB in place for New Orleans. Perhaps that QB is in place but we don't know it yet publicly. Bieniemy may be interested in working with Jameis. Or at least maybe they were trying to sell him on the notion. And Mrs. B does have deep pockets. And New Orleans is his home. No telling, but it would be a coup to get him in that capacity. saintsfan1976 likes this.

02-07-2022, 07:27 PM	#6
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,339	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Pederson hasn't done anything special at all. He one a Super Bowl with a QB a lot of confidence and hot streak who performs especially well in the clutch and then they subsequently went and got rid of him and went with their 1st round draft pick Wentz who actually got worse the longer he was on the team. Pederson was handed a SB, he didn't really earn it from my perspective. People act like he did something great but he didn't. We will be incredibly thankful we didn't get him in a couple of years when he gets fired. As I stated before though, I'm terrified of being stuck in mediocrity. I see all these teams with great QBs and we need to find a way to put one on our team. You want to see a perfect example of why you need good QB play to get to the SB and win, just look at the Titans. The game between the Bengals really revolved around two possessions one for the Titans, the other for the Bengals. The Titans guy threw a pick, the Bengals guy threw a great pass to get his team in FG range. It's almost impossible to win in this league without good QB play. You don't even need a good offense. You can be a defensive oriented team. You just need a guy that can make that play when you need it and not **** everything up when you really don't need him to.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach No disrespect to Pete Carmichael, but I hope Dennis brings in a fresh offensive mind. Pete helped Sean Payton run Sean’s offense. Let’s not run this thing with the “ghost” of Sean Payton hanging over everything. leilung, Rell&Gold, K Major and 1 others like this.

02-07-2022, 08:13 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by ChrisXVI No disrespect to Pete Carmichael, but I hope Dennis brings in a fresh offensive mind. Pete helped Sean Payton run Sean’s offense. Let’s not run this thing with the “ghost” of Sean Payton hanging over everything. Not sure if you've heard Duncan's take but he believes Allen could go in a different direction at OC. No guarantee he'll roll with Pete. As you stated, fresh/new ideas should be welcomed. Guess we'll find out. ChrisXVI, Rell&Gold and shawnkytonk like this.