Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach

halloween 65 · 02-08-2022, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not sure if you've heard Duncan's take but he believes Allen could go in a different direction at OC. No guarantee he'll roll with Pete.

As you stated, fresh/new ideas should be welcomed.

Guess we'll find out.

Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O?

saintsfan1976 · 02-08-2022, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O?

How do you know for certain?

What if there's someone in mind already?

What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC?

What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight?

We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move.

halloween 65 · 02-08-2022, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How do you know for certain?

What if there's someone in mind already?

What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC?

What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight?

We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move.

Don't know if you remember when Payton served his suspension but PC called the O, really good year. I personally thought the 2011 season when PC was calling plays for the O was just as good if not better than the "greatest show on turf " Rams. Give PC a qb that can hit the deep ball (Winston) with a few good solid rb.'s (3 headed monster) a good TE and a couple good FA WR and I don't think there is a better OC out there that could match him. So if Allen would get rid of PC I do think it would be bad. PC is that good. But there always a lot of what if's.

stickman · 02-07-2022, 08:12 PM

I know a lot of people wanted a complete change, but this is not a bad team that fired its coach. This is a team that had a winning record, a great defense, and narrowly missed the playoffs despite having an unprecedented number of players injured/out with covid. Is a little continuity here a bad thing?

saintfan · 02-07-2022, 08:17 PM

BakoSaint · 02-07-2022, 09:10 PM

I think the Saints kind of have their wings clipped with the worst cap situation in the league and the disastrous contracts to hill, peat, and thomas. Add into that the high expectations created by the last 3 Brees seasons that could not be repeated even if we had Brees back because we cant afford receivers. An amazing rising star coach would likely realize ours is a situation to avoid, and if not, their star would lose its luster drawing up plays for trainwreck smith and adam trashman. We have to rebuild. Our defense can still be ok so the best bet is a defensive coach who can polish their resume on that side of the ball. Allen lacks other opportunities so he is a fine caretaker. If he doesnt work out, I would rather go after the next great coach in a few years without Peat hogging all the wings at the recruitment dinner, hill asking the new coach his name ever 5 minutes and tripping him with crutches, and Thomas having to block another number on his iphone.

The Dude · 02-07-2022, 09:43 PM

I’m thinking nobody really wanted to come here. Seems like it was kind of a ask all the hot chicks to the prom first and if you get turned down go with the chick with a “great personality “ type of situation.

saintfan · 02-07-2022, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I’m thinking nobody really wanted to come here. Seems like it was kind of a ask all the hot chicks to the prom first and if you get turned down go with the chick with a “great personality “ type of situation.

She's already going with speedo. He told her he knew a guy who had a friend who's cousins uncle was going to buy everybody wine coolers...

mapcow · 02-07-2022, 10:15 PM

BOOOORRRR RIIINNNNG

saintsfan1976 · 02-08-2022, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

BOOOORRRR RIIINNNNG

I’m not sure what level of excitement you were hoping for but I think it’s worth learning if DA can lead this team the way he’s helped SP for so many seasons.

02-08-2022, 07:17 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by K Major Not sure if you've heard Duncan's take but he believes Allen could go in a different direction at OC. No guarantee he'll roll with Pete. As you stated, fresh/new ideas should be welcomed. Guess we'll find out. Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O? jeanpierre likes this.

02-08-2022, 07:34 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by halloween 65 Allen lets our OC go, that's his 1st mistake. If so Campbell's (Detroit) gonna scoop him up and gonna jump start Detroit. Bad move on Allen good move for Campbell. Do we really have the players in place to run a new O? How do you know for certain? What if there's someone in mind already? What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC? What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight? We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

02-08-2022, 09:37 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How do you know for certain? What if there's someone in mind already? What if there's plans for a special QB coming in 2022 along with a new OC? What if Carmichael stays on with more oversight? We just don't know enough yet to dismiss any possibility as a bad move. Don't know if you remember when Payton served his suspension but PC called the O, really good year. I personally thought the 2011 season when PC was calling plays for the O was just as good if not better than the "greatest show on turf " Rams. Give PC a qb that can hit the deep ball (Winston) with a few good solid rb.'s (3 headed monster) a good TE and a couple good FA WR and I don't think there is a better OC out there that could match him. So if Allen would get rid of PC I do think it would be bad. PC is that good. But there always a lot of what if's.

02-07-2022, 08:12 PM	#4
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,801	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach I know a lot of people wanted a complete change, but this is not a bad team that fired its coach. This is a team that had a winning record, a great defense, and narrowly missed the playoffs despite having an unprecedented number of players injured/out with covid. Is a little continuity here a bad thing? leilung, AsylumGuido, Rell&Gold and 2 others like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach I think the Saints kind of have their wings clipped with the worst cap situation in the league and the disastrous contracts to hill, peat, and thomas. Add into that the high expectations created by the last 3 Brees seasons that could not be repeated even if we had Brees back because we cant afford receivers. An amazing rising star coach would likely realize ours is a situation to avoid, and if not, their star would lose its luster drawing up plays for trainwreck smith and adam trashman. We have to rebuild. Our defense can still be ok so the best bet is a defensive coach who can polish their resume on that side of the ball. Allen lacks other opportunities so he is a fine caretaker. If he doesnt work out, I would rather go after the next great coach in a few years without Peat hogging all the wings at the recruitment dinner, hill asking the new coach his name ever 5 minutes and tripping him with crutches, and Thomas having to block another number on his iphone. halloween 65 likes this.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by The Dude I’m thinking nobody really wanted to come here. Seems like it was kind of a ask all the hot chicks to the prom first and if you get turned down go with the chick with a “great personality “ type of situation. She's already going with speedo. He told her he knew a guy who had a friend who's cousins uncle was going to buy everybody wine coolers... K Major likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints hire Dennis Allen as Head Coach Originally Posted by mapcow BOOOORRRR RIIINNNNG I’m not sure what level of excitement you were hoping for but I think it’s worth learning if DA can lead this team the way he’s helped SP for so many seasons. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.